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DONT BUY A BELT FROM LOTUS!! SAVE $175!!!

IF YOU HAVE NOT REPLACED A BELT YET, YOU WILL!!

Last weekend the belt on my 05 elise started to shred.
At Lotus they price these belts at a stout $195.00 + tax. Once my belt was off I took it to NAPA Auto to compare and found the exact same belt for $30.00. I assume it was a Celica GTS belt, but I was in a hurry and practically acting as my own salesperson so there was nobody to confirm this.

NAPA Part #060560
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Manufactured by Gates

Lotus must buy these for less than $20 each and sells for 10 x. thats crazy.

I hope this helps anyone soon to be buying a belt.

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Nice find!
But can someone confirm they are the exact same parts?
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robb373,

This has alway been a fear of mine. Did you do the replace?
Thanks for the info!
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Great info, esp as I tend to carry a spare belt. Thanks.

Is it then confirmed this is the correct belt for N/A Elises?

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Belt

Before buying that $20.00 belt make sure that your warranty is not voided by this. In the case of Robb's car i think he is out of warranty but i would hate to be challenged on this part.
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how many miles on your elise that it needs a belt?

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Accesory belt or? I had been told by the Mechanics at LOA that it was a chain-driven cam??? Then again, they have been reliable only in that they are unreliable...




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Accesory belt or? I had been told by the Mechanics at LOA that it was a chain-driven cam??? Then again, they have been reliable only in that they are unreliable...
He's talking about alternator and aircompressor belts not the engine. 2zz is a chain driven cam engine.
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If it makes you guys happy, I'll make a stencil to spray "lotus" on them and sell them for only $150. lol. None of you better put them on ebay- I thought of it first.

Of course they are the same part. Just like the $50 fuse in the Lotus bag is the same part as any other $1 fuse.
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This is the serpentine belt.

I only have 2000 miles, but the car is in vegas and rubber dries quick. Not to mention this car has been a track car its entire life spinning at very high rpms.

As far as warranty goes, the burden of proof would lie on the dealership to prove that the cause of a warranty claim would be from the belt. This would never happen and be nearly impossible to prove. It is unlawful for a manufacturer or dealership to "blanket void" a warranty for any reason. Warranty rejection is only done on a per claim basis. For example, you can track your lotus all day long but if you bring it to Lotus for a defective windshield wiper motor they must cover it. However if you put a 10 lbs wiper blade on the stock arm and the motor burned out trying to push it you are SOL.

BUY THE BELT and KEEP A SPARE! Specifically in this instance, Gates IS the stock belt manufacturer. It is labeled for Lotus so therefore there is absolutely no way they can ever give you trouble about it.


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He's talking about alternator and aircompressor belts not the engine. 2zz is a chain driven cam engine.
Thanks. I didn't think I was that nuts as it sure sounded like a chain/cam engine behind the head, but these days anything that came from LOA is suspect...




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This is the serpentine belt.

As far as warranty goes, the burden of proof would lie on the dealership to prove that the cause of a warranty claim would be from the belt. This would never happen and be nearly impossible to prove.
Maybe they will say it caused the power steering pump to act up
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The way multi-v belt part numbers work, is that they always contain the number of ribs and the length, either in mm or inches. Thus 060560 = 6 rib 56.0" long. You can translate to the K/PK part numbers by converting the length to mm. eg 6PK1420 would probably work too. There is some 'fudge factor' in the sizing - if you actually measure the belt they tend to be about 0.5" longer than stated.

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I have 3 factory belts if anyone wants them..

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Maybe they will say it caused the power steering pump to act up
Mine has already stopped working

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At Lotus they price these belts at a stout $195.00 + tax.
Still on the (very) expensive side, but Lotus Garage has the belt for $130.81.

Some dealers charge a lot more than others...




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I picked up the NAPA belt 060560 (actually 25-060560) and it is too short for my 2006 N/A Elise. I measured the factory belt and it appears to be 10 inches longer which would be NAPA PN 25-060660. I plan to verify ASAP but I wanted to share since I couldn't really find any specific info regarding the proper accessory belt for a 2006 elise. Funny how none of the chain autoparts stores list a friggin serpentine belt for our cars
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are the 05 belts different than the 06? I have to change mine out asap its starting to make noise when I start the car. Trav34 when you get the correct part# please post it
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Here is a picture and part list for the belt and tensioner from a previous post asking about the belt... post number # 14 gives the pictures and the parts list.

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f101...does-do-41822/

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I picked up the NAPA belt 060560 (actually 25-060560) and it is too short for my 2006 N/A Elise. I measured the factory belt and it appears to be 10 inches longer which would be NAPA PN 25-060660. I plan to verify ASAP but I wanted to share since I couldn't really find any specific info regarding the proper accessory belt for a 2006 elise. Funny how none of the chain autoparts stores list a friggin serpentine belt for our cars
I believe the original post made by Robb was for a car w/o air conditioning -- perhaps that explains the difference in belt length.

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