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for a start i'd love a copy of the A/C probe bulletin

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Hello kind American persons...

It seems that a US based paypal account is required to download the manuals from the Lotus site, and us English folk aren't allowed to have one.

Anyone feeling generous?
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It seems that a US based paypal account is required to download the manuals from the Lotus site, and us English folk aren't allowed to have one.

Anyone feeling generous?
I used my credit card, no paypal required, but they'll only have the 111R manuals, no previous models other than the Esprit.
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I'm not paying $25 to check in for new bulletins..
I'm with you on this one. I think everyone should pay for the downloading of the manuals, but I'd be more than happy to "bootleg" copies of the TSBs after I paid for the manual...

Anyone want to share the latest copies of the TSBs?




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I used my credit card, no paypal required, but they'll only have the 111R manuals, no previous models other than the Esprit.
111R is fine, I have copies of manuals for the other models (s1 and s2).

Anybody want a copy?
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Hello kind American persons...

It seems that a US based paypal account is required to download the manuals from the Lotus site, and us English folk aren't allowed to have one.

Anyone feeling generous?
I don't have a PayPal account and just used a credit card. Some wording on the site must be misleading.
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so i am REALLY stupid. i see no links for DLs. ah...there we go. weird. had to log in twice to get the links

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While I had heard about this, I didn't act on it until now. All I can say is WOW! EASILY the best $25 you can spend on your Elise. What a fantastic reference this will be! Thanks for posting about the one-day membership. VERY COOL!

I created an Elise Manual folder in My Documents. Then I created sub-folders for each chapter.

A quick pointer... maybe obvious to others, but I almost missed it. I was right clicking and "saving target as" to download each section. I noticed the Toyota Manual sections were just links to a web page where you can buy those particular manuals. What I didn't notice at first, though was the "Electricals" section was ALSO a link to another page, which THEN has the individual pdf files. Oops! Almost missed those! What a noob!

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Since you just downloaded these, can you post the current list of service bullitens? Thanks!
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I noticed the Toyota Manual sections were just links to a web page where you can buy those particular manuals.
Can you also post the links to where we can buy the Toyota Manuals? That wasn't on there when I down loaded the manuals, and I really don't want to spend another $25 just to get the link to go and buy the Toyota Manuals...




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Can you also post the links to where we can buy the Toyota Manuals? That wasn't on there when I down loaded the manuals, and I really don't want to spend another $25 just to get the link to go and buy the Toyota Manuals...
Toyota Manuals - Elise

Copies of the Toyota Service Manuals can be obtained from your Lotus dealer, quoting the appropriate part number:

Toyota Engine Repair Manual
B120T0327J $85.27
Toyota Engine Supplement
C120T0327J $42.82
Toyota Transmission Manual
D120T0327J $25.62

But read previous posts, I found some of these on the toyota europe parts site, but have not purchased them yet.

Edit: Not sure about the supplement and couldn't find the transmision manual, was going to snoop around australia to see if I could find it there.

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No new service bulletins since the ones posted previously above:

Technical Service Bulletins - Elise
2004/11 Throttle
2004/18 Lift Tube
2004/21 Cooler Union
2004/27 Visor Seal
2005/01 AC Probe
2005/03 Scan 3
2005/04 Lightweight
2005/05 Oil Cooler


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The only other car that I can find with the C64 transmission is the Australian Toyota Corolla Sportivo (has our engine too) but it's front wheel drive.

2nd Edit: site where this information comes from:
http://www.mccarrolls.com.au/toyota/...specifications

DRIVETRAIN - TOYOTA COROLLA SPORTIVO 4D Hatchback - 6 man

Driven Wheels Front
Transmission description Six speed manual
- Transmission code C64

Gear Ratios
- 1st 3.166:1
- 2nd Gear 2.050:1
- 3rd Gear 1.481:1
- 4th Gear 1.166:1
- 5th Gear 0.916:1
- 6th Gear 0.815:1
- Reverse Gear 3.250:1
- Differential ratio 4.529:1

Can't find an australian equivalent to the toyota tech docs in europe:

Edit3: fixed link
http://techdoc.toyota-europe.com/fin...p?&d=1&lang=En

10 euros for Toyota, 8 euros for Lexus, 16 euros for both.

or like in the US:

http://techinfo.toyota.com/

$10 single day

The US site has none of our documents.

The European one has at least the engine one under the Celica english documents (RM733E)

The European one has another document with the same code as our engine supplement one (RM929E) but under the corolla and the description doesn't match, but the part number does????

Can't find the C64 transmission on either of them, I wonder if that transmission was not used on the US or EU markets at all?

Edit, the C64 transmission manual is part number RM930E

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Hopefully last post before downloading everything tomorrow.

I found all the toyota engine and transmission manuals at the european site:

http://techdoc.toyota-europe.com/fin...p?&d=1&lang=En

Access for one day is 16 euros, I don't think they don't do the separate subscriptions toyota vs lexus, you can access both.

Lotus name: Elise/Exige 6 Speed Engine Manual
Lotus part: B120T0327J
Toyota name: English Repair Manual ENGINE (1999-->) vehicle id: ZZT230
Toyota part: RM733E
Toyota name: English Repair Manual ENGINE (2000-->) vehicle id: ZZT231
Toyota part: RM733E
Both links take you to the same document.
Both Available when you search for Celica/English and it will be under Repair Manual/Engine.


Lotus name: Elise/Exige 6 Speed Engine Supplement
Lotus part: C120T0327J
Toyota name: English Repair Manual ENGINE (2001-->) vehicle id: ZZE123 From Oct. 2001 production.
Toyota part: RM929E
Strange too, the description is for a Main Manual not a supplement. But it's the right manual
Available when you search for Corolla/English and it will be under Repair Manual/Engine.


Lotus name: Elise/Exige 6 Speed Transmission
Lotus part: D120T0327J
Toyota name: English Repair Manual CHASSIS + BODY (2001-->) vehicle id: ZZE123 C64 Manual Transaxle
Toyota part: RM930E
Another strange one, they didn't put the document under the transmission. But also the right manual.
Available also doing a search for Corolla/English and it will be under Repair Manual/Chassis+Body


You don't have to pay to do the searches, and 16 euros is not that much money. (around $25) Anyway tomorrow I'm going to try to create a one day account, hopefully they allow access from the US, or I'll have to use my parent's address in Spain and pay taxes I guess.

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The manuals are for viewing only and it's a pain to download them
pretty much they have to be downloaded by section one by one and there are a lot of sections.

Anyway i'm going to be very busy getting all those pages, and I'll report later.
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Miguel, don't be busy! Just use HTTP retrieval tools and it's a piece of cake.
I personally used wget to mirror entire web tree from their site on my harddrive with all the pdf documents and web pages. Took me about 10 minutes.
I can not imaging wasting my time manually downloading each and every document



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The manuals are for viewing only and it's a pain to download them
pretty much they have to be downloaded by section one by one and there are a lot of sections.

Anyway i'm going to be very busy getting all those pages, and I'll report later.

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problem is that there is not an index.html but a css that links to javascript, etc...

Tried wget already, but I'm looking into other ways too.
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Hmm... Maby they changed the site lately. I had no problem with the right set of command options to mirror it (including Esprit part just in case).
wegt does not really need index.html (in fact it will generate it locally).

Have you looked at this
post for options? Use whatever strating URL you have in your browser once yuo log in.


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problem is that there is not an index.html but a css that links to javascript, etc...

Tried wget already, but I'm looking into other ways too.

Alexander

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Hmm... Maby they changed the site lately. I had no problem with the right set of command options to mirror it (including Esprit part just in case).
wegt does not really need index.html (in fact it will generate it locally).

Have you looked at this
post for options? Use whatever strating URL you have in your browser once yuo log in.
Read my previous posts. This is not for the lotus site, this is for the european Toyota site to retreive the 2 engine documents and the transmission documents.

Anyway it's a PITA but I got them.

230 pdfs for the engine (RM733E)
29 pdfs for the engine supplement (RM929E)
16 pdfs for the C64 transmission (RM930E)

I think i even will try to get the index files for all those documents not sure how that works, but at least I have the individual files
for 16 euros and one hour of work is not too bad.

Edit: both manual documents for the RM733E (1999 and 2000) are the same it seems, get the 2000 one just in case. I'm getting both and I'll compare.

Edit2: on the address at registration I did put UK because they didn't have an US entry, but the credit card went through because I put my real address and zip code.

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I didn't realize the 2ZZGE engine was available in 2000 models. I know the 2ZZFE was, but that only had variable time, not lift. Now that you have the engine manual, can you confirm that it covers the 2ZZGE? Do you think it is the latest, up-to-date 2ZZGE manual, or simply the original one from 2000 or 2001?
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