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also have the same issue ..also tried bringing mine to the dealer..no luck..they could not figure it out..
they actually think its normal..go figure...


This is not normal... you shouldn't smell anything from the engine bay with a properly running engine. The exhaust will stink in an enclosed area of course but if you stick your head into the engine bay with the car running you shouldn't smell anything.
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the1sen,

To clarify - are you smelling gas or exhaust?

If it's gas, don't give up yet. As for mine - I was wrong it is not heat related. I can smell gas as soon as I come to a stop with the car cold. I jumped out of the car and with the motor still running stuck my nose everywhere - in the tailpipe, in the filler door, under the hood. When idling it is very faint, but it is coming from the area of the charcoal canister.

It might be the purge solenoid is dead, leaving the charcoal saturated, or a leaky fitting or hose on the canister. I think I'll let the dealer take it from here. Does anyone know if an aftermarket muffler voids the warranty?
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It could be the o-ring on the filler tube.
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Mine ended up being a leak in the fuel housing....fuel vapors were leaking.

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Your exhaust will not void the warranty on an unrelated part. The dealer would have to prove the exhaust system caused the fuel issue.

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the1sen,

To clarify - are you smelling gas or exhaust?

If it's gas, don't give up yet. As for mine - I was wrong it is not heat related. I can smell gas as soon as I come to a stop with the car cold. I jumped out of the car and with the motor still running stuck my nose everywhere - in the tailpipe, in the filler door, under the hood. When idling it is very faint, but it is coming from the area of the charcoal canister.

It might be the purge solenoid is dead, leaving the charcoal saturated, or a leaky fitting or hose on the canister. I think I'll let the dealer take it from here. Does anyone know if an aftermarket muffler voids the warranty?
I do not know. All I know is another LT member drove my car for about 4 miles, smelled the same smell, and got a headache from driving it. I'm going to ask Andy to come for a ride with me and I'll show him what I'm talking about.

I also noticed today that when I get on the 2nd cam and then come to a normalized speed, the scent is very strong.

Where is this canister located please? I would be willing to try and seal it off as mentioned in another thread - a test to see if that's where the fumes are coming from.

This sucks.
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Black box mounted to the firewall, North of the dipstick
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plastique999,
which housing did you mean, exactly?

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Black box mounted to the firewall, North of the dipstick
Nifty. Thank you.

Now, which hose do I block off? Red, Blue, or Green?

Lastly, how do I block the hose off?

I am much obliged for your help and patience.
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How many miles do you have? Is your car still under warranty?

The only thing I can think of is to have a dealer look for what ever? But if its not under warranty that could be $$$.
14,000+ Yes.
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I keep thinking about this but I don’t know the exact system and set up of the fuel system on this car. That said, could this be a return line from the engine bay back to the tank? Maybe a seal somewhere along the return line. Assuming there is a return line on this car. After accelerating, medium to fuel on it, does the excess fuel after you let off the throttle go back to the tank?

Again, I don’t know if our car has this sort of system or not but something to think about.

Any way, I would have it at the dealer ASAP to get it fixed. This car is way fun and you bought it to have fun with. Not avoid driving because your getting sick in it.
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Red hose is from the tank.
squeezing the sides of the fitting releases it. I was thinking of sticking a cork or something up it to close it off, but no point tonight because it is dumping rain.

There is an o-ring up inside the fitting that could be damaged or dislodged by the plug.

I found this diagram of the evap system on another thread. Sorry I lost track of which one and can't give credit.

I appreciate the praise, but I've had my Elise less than a month, so I'm making this up as I go. I don't want something bad to happen to your car based on my advice - proceed with caution!
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Mine ended up being a leak in the fuel housing....fuel vapors were leaking.
do you know where this is and if so, can you photograph it or show it on tat diagram above please? thanks so much.
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Well, I went to the Lotus Dealer today. When I arrived, they asked me why I don't have the top off and windows down. I explained that it was the only way to keep the smell out of the cabin. I told them about the 3 total times I've gotten sick now.

My mechanic there said that he is going to "smoke out" the leak and repair it. He asked if I had a CEL and I told him I don't... He mentioned something about a flap being possibly stuck open?

In any case - I was encouraged to know that he has a way to track this, and is going to fix it for me when the clam, resistor pack, alarm, and headlamp assemblies are replaced next week sometime.

If I find anything out I will post about it here. If anyone else has any ideas on what to do to fix this, speak up.
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update

thanks .. keep us posted..
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Lotus has my car - I told them exactly how to duplicate the issue. When I get it back I will let you all know if it's fixed and what they did.

kevinthefro - I'll PM you with any updates immediately. Thanks sir.
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Hey, we're just glad you haven't blown up yet!

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Hey, we're just glad you haven't blown up yet!
i know - but hey, I REALLLY REEEEAAAAALLLY Like this car - CDN_Alien had a headache from driving it after only a couple of moments.

If I do explode, at least I'll have died happy!
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haha! that's what I'm saying.

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I have a "new to me" 05 Elise that I picked up yesterday, and I have noticed a gasoline fume smell with the top on and windows closed driving or sitting if the heating blower is not on. I'm in Washington state (cold) so I don't have much open window or any top off time yet with the car, so I don't know if those make the fumes worse...
I will start investigating today (to rule out dangerous gas leaks before I drive the car more) and will post anything I learn.
the1sen, has a fix been found on your car yet?
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