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post #81 of 141 (permalink) Old 12-12-2011, 03:56 PM
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I'm getting ready to swap the brake pads and was wondering if anyone had tried this approach before (fully understand this isn't "the way"):

1) Loosen lugs on one side
2) Jack car at point A
3) Place jack stand directly next to the jack at point A (hockey pucks between the jack / jackstand and the car)
4) Lower jack until car rests on the jackstand

It seems like point A is fairly wide, wide enough for 2 pucks side by side at any rate, without damaging anything.

Am I totally insane or does this seem secure enough to swap pads (bearing in mind I'm doing one side at a time)?
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Excellent chance it will pop out. Stand is not parallel to the car. Please video if you try this

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Excellent chance it will pop out. Stand is not parallel to the car. Please video if you try this
The base of the stand was too wide to get it close to the jack anyway - went with the tried and true approach of ramps, defuser, then stands.
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I wouldn't give it that much effort. Before I even came in for my tire change I explained to the guys that it wouldn't go on a lift and required a padded, low-profile jack that had to be used at a certain point on the car and they were cool with that. I even brought in my jack just in case and pointed out where to lift and gave them the owner's manual for reference. They were done in about an hour or so with no issues. ..........
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I am about to take my car into an alignment shop for a Tirerack-drop and install of some new Toyos. This is going to be a (lesser than) jacking 101 question, but the Owners manuel indicates: (point) A Identified by a blue sticker. My stickers seem to have washed off.... is this circle (yes, with a little blue outline) the proper spot? I would rather ask the question now than look back wistfully later. So should I suggest the shop use a padded jack which fits within this circle and that they take great care NOT to make contact with the outside edges?

I am looking to inform the tire-guys EXACTLY what they need and Where to jack.




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Yes, thats what the jack points look like.
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High_Colorado, have them use a floor jack with rubber pad and do one side at a time to be safe.

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I don't get the hockey puck obsession.

Nice soft wood: cheap, non-slip, forgiving.

Plus, one can use a larger size, thereby spreading load over greater area.

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My floor jack came with rubber pad. I have seen some heavy duty floor jacks used by some tire chains and all they have was the metal pad saucer type which is why I mentioned the rubber pad.

Friction coefficient wood against aluminum is much lower than rubber against aluminum. Rubber pad would be better at preventing slip.

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After two years of ownership, I've learned a thing or two about lifting and supporting the car. Here is what I've come up with, in a nice video form so no one has to read anything.

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Nice video. I might add that if the wheels are going to be removed, the wheel nuts/studs should be "broken" loose prior to jacking them up. Not removed, not totally loosened, just enough so that you don't have to apply a lot of torque to anything while the car is up.
And if you are going underneath the car, it can be very wise to add an additional hard support like the wood stacked up enough just in case the jackstand nearest to you fails you might not be left smooshed (technical term). The wood isn't supporting weight, just stacked high enough to stop the travel prior to smooshing (there I go again with the technical) you.
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After reading this thread, I'm somewhat confused as to the best and simplest way to raise the car. Wouldn't this be the simplest method to have all 4 corners off the ground, with the wheels off?

1) slightly loosen wheel lug nuts at all 4 corners
2) remove diffuser panel
3) raise car at A on left side
4) slide 2 jack stands underneath, one at B, one at C
5) lower onto both jack stands at the same time
6) repeat 3-5 for right side
7) reverse steps when done

Isn't this the simplest and best way?

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Can anyone take time to reply?
It's important for a newbie to make sure this is done right.

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Is the "C" jacking point the area next to the larger bolt at the top of this picture. Just want to confirm before I make a mistake... Thanks.
Can someone confirm this? The lack of detail in the owners manual has left me questioning this jacking point as well.
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Can someone confirm this? The lack of detail in the owners manual has left me questioning this jacking point as well.
Anyone? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's unclear on this.
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ramps

I still like these (post #9):

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f101...0/#post1019850

Now using them for the Evora oil changes, etc. No jacks, jack stands... Easier to back onto with the gradual slope.

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yup.. they work great.. too bad they aren't low enough for front-end work.
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Be very careful with ramps! Accidents have happened where the car slides off a ramp while backing up, or the ramp slides out from under the car while it's moving up or down the ramps.
Better to jack the car and place it on the ramps, rather than driving the car up the ramps.

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Be very careful with ramps! Accidents have happened where the car slides off a ramp while backing up, or the ramp slides out from under the car while it's moving up or down the ramps.
Better to jack the car and place it on the ramps, rather than driving the car up the ramps.
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Be very careful with ramps! Accidents have happened where the car slides off a ramp while backing up, or the ramp slides out from under the car while it's moving up or down the ramps.
Better to jack the car and place it on the ramps, rather than driving the car up the ramps.
The ramps I made are long, heavy, and do not move. I always have someone watching from behind as I slooowly back onto them. No issues.

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