Newbie here!!! - LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-29-2006, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 203
Post Newbie here!!!

..hi all, just joined! im not an owner (yet ) im tossing around the idea of buying an Elise, and joined hoping to get alittle info before i commit. first off when are the scheduled sevice's due, and how much $$ do they run? second: some buying tips (what to look for, what to expect from the dealers, etc...) ( i will be buying used) third: does lotus cars offer a lease for their cars, or is a check in the "sum of" , the only way i'll drive off in 1? Lastly: I live in New Bern NC, and the closest factory dealer (i belive) is Lotus of Duram. has any-one done buisness w/ them, and how was it? thanks everyone ~Mike E~
murcielagoGTR is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-29-2006, 06:56 PM
shay2nak
 
shay2nak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calipornia
Posts: 24,900
welcome! Look at me, I have 6000 posts and don't have a car yet. There are plenty of folks that can answer your questions.

** save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp ** EQ: Y=(190*X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs)

'07 Lotus Exige S310


WTC 2
shay2nak is offline  
post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-29-2006, 10:22 PM
Registered User
 
JediMindGamez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Davis, Ca
Posts: 1,056
First service - 1000 miles - $300 Dollars for data dump
Then every 7500 miles at anywhere from $300 to $700 depending on what extras you have done (changing out tranny fluid, camber shim removal, etc).
A048s will run you about $1000 every 3000 to 5000 miles
AD07 will run you about $1000 every 12,000 miles

Check the dealers and shops section for good dealers. Few companies do lease the elise iirc.

You can't rationalize cars like these, they're not something you buy with your head, you buy them with your heart because you love them and who can explain love. All I know is I love my lil elise more then I like any other car...
JediMindGamez is offline  
 
post #4 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Registered User
 
Gary B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 138
I would recommend you cruise around this entire BB site. There's tons of answers to questions you didn't even know you had.

'06 Elise Ardent Red/Black, touring pkg, hard top, star shield
'67 Cadillac Sedan deVille - fully restored
'00 Saab 9-3 Convertible - barely holding together
Gary B is offline  
post #5 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 203
i like to do my own "wrenching" on my rides. is this possible on the elise, or will i get to know my dealer/ mechanic very well, over the course of ownership? on a side note ,this will be my first new car... well actually its a toss-up between a new GTi, and the Elise
murcielagoGTR is offline  
post #6 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 12:56 PM
Registered User
 
JediMindGamez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Davis, Ca
Posts: 1,056
Its possible. Will take more time on an elise then most other cars cause of the difficulty of accessing certain areas. However, certain individuals recommend agianst it as the elise tends to disassemble itself as time goes on and you probably aren't as aware as a dealer is on which bolts have an affinity towards coming loose.

You can't rationalize cars like these, they're not something you buy with your head, you buy them with your heart because you love them and who can explain love. All I know is I love my lil elise more then I like any other car...
JediMindGamez is offline  
post #7 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 12:59 PM
Registered User
 
slee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: South Shore MA
Posts: 873
Welcome to ET. Try searching for what to look out for. I don't believed you can lease an Elise from a dealer (anyone else know for sure?), but you should be able to get into a used 05 for low to mid $30s just keep an eye on the for sale thread. Services and tires are expensive, but if you do your own work you can minimize the cost. Don't know what you drive today, but you might want to compare the insurance rate as well.

05 Elise (RIP)
slee is offline  
post #8 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 01:05 PM
Registered User
 
LARRY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 26,312
Welcome to Elise Talk.

Test drive one first. They are not like other cars.

Have fun!
LARRY is offline  
post #9 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 01:05 PM
Registered User
 
milehitom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,405
Welcome-if that's your X1/9, you'll love an Elise! Very similar balance but a lot faster. If you can wrench on a Fiat (I know-I have a Spider), you can handle the tight spaces on an Elise-you'll probably find it roomy by comparison.

Tom
milehitom is offline  
post #10 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 01:07 PM
Registered User
 
newman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,144
you can work on an elise just as easily as any other car. Working on my elise is no different than working on any car i have ever owned. (except for a wacky ECU) You will find that there is alot of attitude here that the elise is some rediculously different piece of machinery than, say, your mom's new outback station wagon... In fact, that's probably more sophisticated in many ways than the elise. Just maybe not as specialized and refined...

Don't let maintenance worry you. Keep in mind that you have a dime a dozen toyota motor in there. If it blows up... who cares? As far as late model sports cars go, it's also practically a throw away. You can get a lightly used elise for less than many new common cars on the road.

I'd definitely reccomend one, it's a blast to drive. But don't shy away because you are worried about owning it.

2008 Aspen White Exige S240: SOLD
E30GTR: 500WHP/400FTLB Open to offers...
http://www.onyxsyndicate.com/newman
newman is offline  
post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 01:07 PM
Registered User
 
LARRY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 26,312
It's not a Fiat, that's for sure....
LARRY is offline  
post #12 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 02:14 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 203
thanks all! im glad to be here yes the X1/9 is my current ride and is a love affair ive had forever(I love my Fiats). I will be in the market for my first new car (ever), and i really like the Elise , and feel it represents me well (i belive ) . I am concerned about the matainence etc.. not only because im not wealthy by any means, but as a true enthusiest, i feel that i would be doing the car and the hobby a sever diservice buy purchasing the car "just because i can afford the sticker", then not being able to keep it serviced and "cared" for as it rightfully needs. Further more, ive been fortunate enough to meet all types of car owners, and other then my Fiat budies, the Lotus croud, has always been very welcoming, enthusiastic, and offer rides in their cars which help "steer" my direction to Lotus So big thanks going out to ya'll

Last edited by murcielagoGTR; 11-30-2006 at 02:20 PM.
murcielagoGTR is offline  
post #13 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 03:37 PM
Registered User
 
TimMullen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 12,374
Quote:
Originally Posted by murcielagoGTR
i like to do my own "wrenching" on my rides. is this possible on the Elise, or will i get to know my dealer/ mechanic very well,
If you can maintain your Fiat, you can handle the Elise. It has a standard Toyota engine. Most other things are fairly simple, and any decent home mechanic can handle it. You can even download the factory Service Manual from Lotus Cars USA (LCU) for $25.

If you want to get into modifying the car - things that will require a change in the ECU, that will be very complicated, but if you plan on using the car as is, then you never bother with that.

The only added difficult with the Elise is how you have to jack up the car - you have to drop the under-tray (under the engine) to gain access to the places that you can place the jack stands. It's not hard to do - I back my car up on Rhino Ramps and undo the small bolts that hold the under-tray in place, then put the car back on the ground. Once that's done, it's not much different than any other car.

The engine has a timing chain, so there is no timing belt that has to be changed as part of the regular maintenance (one very good reason that it doesn't' have a Honda engine).

Oil changes are simple - pull the pan plug and change the easily accessible filter - just like any other car (actually simpler than on my Honda or my Miata).

Repairs to things like the radiator (replacement) will require removing the front clam - I haven't had to do that, but from what I've read on this forum, it only takes a couple of hours to remove and replace. But you also shouldn't have to do anything like that for many, many years.

Really, the maintenance requirement for the Elise is not much difference than any other modern car - simpler than most. You will probably want the first (1,000 mile) check up done at a dealer - they go over the car checking everything, and dump the ECU memory (to validate the warranty). The 1,000 mile check up will run you around $300, but other than that, DIY is not a problem.

My car is two year old. It's been to the dealer for the 1,000 mile check up, and for a recall (shift linkage on very early cars). That's it. That's probably all it will ever be there.




Tim Mullen --- There is no such thing as Touring suspension or Touring wheels.

I love being married. It's so great to find that one person that you want to annoy for the rest of your life. - Rita Rudner


Chantilly, VA http://members.cox.net/elans4/
05 Lotus Elise - Chrome Orange - No Touring - No LSS - No Hardtop - Lotus Driving Lights - Lotus "Chin Guards" - plain and simple.
94 Miata R Package - Black
72 Lotus Elan Sprint - Colorado Orange/Cirrus White
TimMullen is offline  
post #14 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 203
....i like hearing these things......reasuring! .... what do tires run $$ wise? i like to venture "back home" to Asheville, and hit up the parkway, and i know im gonna need a new set shortly after purchase also, i should be in the market by late spring, and i asume that, at that time of year, prices for an Elise will be at a premo,so would it be wiser to wait till next fall to buy, or will this not matter?

Last edited by murcielagoGTR; 11-30-2006 at 07:43 PM.
murcielagoGTR is offline  
post #15 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-30-2006, 08:10 PM
Registered User
 
mikester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: So Cal
Posts: 4,634
Hellllooooo !

Covered in Brandy and Lard
mikester is offline  
post #16 of 30 (permalink) Old 12-01-2006, 06:49 AM
Registered User
 
TimMullen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 12,374
Quote:
Originally Posted by murcielagoGTR
what do tires run $$ wise?

<...>

i should be in the market by late spring, and i assume that, at that time of year, prices for an Elise will be at a premo,so would it be wiser to wait till next fall to buy, or will this not matter?
For the Standard Suspension (Base) tires, they run $175 each for the fronts, and $229 each for the rear plus whatever they charge for shipping and your mounting and balancing costs. Under normal usage, the Yokohama AD07s should last around 15,000 miles. So, tires are more expensive than for a normal car, but not hugely more expensive (assuming that you buy premium tires for your normal car).

If you were to buy the Sport Pack (aka LSS), then the tires seem to only last around 5,000 miles. For the vast majority of the people out there (including me) the Base suspension is more than I'll ever be able to use - the Sport Pack is really geared toward track usage.

You'll also tend to find that some maintenance parts (i.e. brake pads) tend to be more expensive simply because they are for a Lotus. If you find the source of the parts and purchase them that way, they are often more expensive. For example, the brake pads on my '72 Elan are from a Triumph Spitfire - if I buy "Spitfire" brake pads, they cost significantly less than "Lotus Elan" pads (even though they come in the same box). In general, you will find that what maintenance parts that you will need for the Elise will cost more than for a typical car, but not a whole lot more. The parts will be far cheaper than they would be for a Ferrari or a Porsche for example.

Seriously, I wouldn't let the cost of maintenance put me off from buying a Elise if you can do the wrenching yourself. Dealer service may be more than I'd consider, but for a DIYer, it's not a problem.



Now, as for a good time to buy an Elise? That's hard to tell.

Right now, there are plenty sitting on dealer lots, and rather large discounts available. Lotus seems to be delaying the supply of '07 Elises, partly as a result of excessive inventory currently at the dealers. How long this will last, no one knows. There are also some changes to the '07s in the area of "bumpers" that may or may not be desirable to you (a bit more protection - current cars have none - for a bit more weight).




Tim Mullen --- There is no such thing as Touring suspension or Touring wheels.

I love being married. It's so great to find that one person that you want to annoy for the rest of your life. - Rita Rudner


Chantilly, VA http://members.cox.net/elans4/
05 Lotus Elise - Chrome Orange - No Touring - No LSS - No Hardtop - Lotus Driving Lights - Lotus "Chin Guards" - plain and simple.
94 Miata R Package - Black
72 Lotus Elan Sprint - Colorado Orange/Cirrus White
TimMullen is offline  
post #17 of 30 (permalink) Old 12-01-2006, 07:01 AM
Registered User
 
slaughtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 6,037
I'd say the Elise is easier to work on than most standard new cars. Yes you have to drop the diffuser but other than that and the ECU, it's more like working on an older car. Plus this car makes you want to spend time with it.

My car both sucks and blows.




Now with added all natural smoky goodness!
slaughtr is offline  
post #18 of 30 (permalink) Old 12-01-2006, 09:23 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 203
thanks for the info ya'll. the deciding factor in if i will be the futre owner of an elise, is if i can get finacing..... because im sorry to say... i dont have 35k in my pocket to drop on the car i will have a sizable down payment, and ive seen a few Elise offered at Lotus of Duram for like $539 mo. ive never bought a new car before, and im not too familiar w/ the Elise, so this is a really new thing for me, and any tips & help is very much appreciated. thanks again, im begining to get really excited about the prospect!!!
murcielagoGTR is offline  
post #19 of 30 (permalink) Old 12-01-2006, 10:53 AM
Registered User
 
ducatiexigeowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 49o30.21'N...2o30.37'W
Posts: 1,466
looking for tips......
Buy used not new,save youself a few$$$'s [for mods...... ]you should find
a very good used elise.....ask the guy's on e/t.
ducatiexigeowner is offline  
post #20 of 30 (permalink) Old 12-01-2006, 11:32 AM
Registered User
 
milehitom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,405
As for waiting 'til spring, I think you will see prices creep up...that's just the nature of convertible/sports car buying. Maybe holding off until autumn will save you a few bucks and give you a bit more time to organize funds, but if you can do it by spring, you'll have two seasons more to enjoy it! And that's pricelss (almost).

Tom
milehitom is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community > Lotus Discussions > Maintenance and Repairs.

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome