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Soft top liner issues.

I noticed soft top came off from the inside locking portion of the mechanism console. It seems as if it wasn't glued too well onto the inside portion of the solid piece on the passenger side. Any one else had this problem?

In retrospect, I think taking the soft top off and rolling the top so the exterior faces outwards will reduce the tension on the soft interior section.

I was rolling it with the soft side facing out so dirt and dust wouldn't get on the exterior rag top.

There is no mention in the manual for a correct way to roll it up before you place it in the draw string cover they provide. Hmmm...... Other than that NO issues at all!

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Happened to me on the driver side.

I went to my dealership yesterday and they said Lotus informed them that this was a common problem and they would replace any soft top that this happened to. Dealership is ordering me one at no cost to me, which is a relief.
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I just came back from the dealer 15 minutes ago from my 1000 mile service. They told me they are ordering a new top for me since this happened to my top as well. I did not even tell them that the top had a problem. I was just tucking it in.
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I noticed soft top came off from the inside locking portion of the mechanism console. It seems as if it wasn't glued too well onto the inside portion of the solid piece on the passenger side. Any one else had this problem?

In retrospect, I think taking the soft top off and rolling the top so the exterior faces outwards will reduce the tension on the soft interior section.

I was rolling it with the soft side facing out so dirt and dust wouldn't get on the exterior rag top.

There is no mention in the manual for a correct way to roll it up before you place it in the draw string cover they provide. Hmmm...... Other than that NO issues at all!
Warranty bro... had the same issue. Had car in for service, brought up the issue, came back from lunch, had a new top! Good thing it's a warranty issue... the Touring Soft Top on a Elise costs $1500!

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Mine has aready been replaced as well....... Pretty poor quality control..... Everyone should check theirs out as make sure they don't have the same problem.......

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Mine was replaced a few months ago, for just that reason.

BTW: I believe I did see info from Lotus somewhere (manual or posting here) saying you should roll with the liner inside. It's a pain in the neck, but a number of people here have previously posted that that's what they do, so that's what I now do.

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in my Eli see for a new top!

Neil... which dealer did you bring her into? Phone number?

Did they have a replacement in stock? If not, how long before you got a new one?

Well, at leat I am not the only one with some top issues. ( Ha ha. )

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Great news. Mine is doing this as well, happy to see that Lotus making good. (Maybe I'm just excited b/c I've never had a car with warranty before.)
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Mine did this on the passenger side first - I just glued it back in and it has been fine since.

Now the drivers side is doing the same thing though

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in my Eli see for a new top!

Neil... which dealer did you bring her into? Phone number?

Did they have a replacement in stock? If not, how long before you got a new one?

Well, at leat I am not the only one with some top issues. ( Ha ha. )
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Have the same problem, I'm glad others are reporting it, because, how else would they know a problem? It is an easy fix, there is a post here about it. I plan on having it addressed under warranty as well.


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Same problem with mine. I am surprised that they are replacing the soft top instead of just glueing it back together at the dealer. It was obviously a poor glue job.
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Same problem with mine. I am surprised that they are replacing the soft top instead of just glueing it back together at the dealer. It was obviously a poor glue job.
I think it goes beyond that to a poor design. This is gonna cost them a fortune!

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Ditto on both sides. When I had it in for the 1k mile check they had someone in their shop fix it up for me and it was ready when I picked the car up that afternoon. Haven't had any problems since. Symbolic LJ service department.
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Ditto on both sides. When I had it in for the 1k mile check they had someone in their shop fix it up for me and it was ready when I picked the car up that afternoon. Haven't had any problems since. Symbolic LJ service department.
Symbolic is my local dealer, so they will probably do the same for me. They just needed stronger glue (or simply more of it) that doesn't damage the top in some other way. The liner itself can stretch a bit.
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They should use the glue they use to stick the clear plastic over the hole in the door--now that's glue.
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I went to the dealer today about the top and he looked at it and said dont worry, we will contact lotus about if it should be replaced or repaired but to just give him a call when im ready to give it up. Sounds about the same story as the rest..

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in my Eli see for a new top!

Neil... which dealer did you bring her into? Phone number?

Did they have a replacement in stock? If not, how long before you got a new one?
Oh, sorry! Just saw this. My dealer was Criswell, in Gaithersburg, MD. They didn't have it in stock, but it only took a few days.

It's nice to see they're being replaced under warranty, but I have to assume the replacement will suffer the same fate. Pretty soon, we'll be taking surveys to see who has had the most soft top replacements.

Lotus had better come up with a fix real fast. I don't think better glue is the answer, cause when you glue fabric to anything that takes any stress at all, you can pretty much expect it to come loose over time.

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This just happened to me last night -- liner came undone from both sides. I've effectively had the car six days and have probably removed and replaced the soft top as many times.

Also, I noticed that the solid piece (with the arrows on it) on the passenger side is broken -- it's just being held together by the vinyl cover glued to the thing.

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