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post #21 of 53 (permalink) Old 05-26-2005, 07:31 AM
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I have had the same problems metioned here!!

I just got my car 4 days ago and it happened.

Dealer said bring it in........they would swap it with a brand new one from another car and it would be covered under warranty on their side.

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Looks like TADTS...

Same here, liner on touring soft top partially detached from one side. Scottsdale Lotus say and they will re-glue it when I come in for my 1,000 mile service.

Agree with earlier poster that perhaps rolling it up with outside of top facing out would put less stress on the glue, but I don't recall seeing any guidance to that effect anywhere else.

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Agree with earlier poster that perhaps rolling it up with outside of top facing out would put less stress on the glue, but I don't recall seeing any guidance to that effect anywhere else.
I believe it's in the owner's manual. I recall seeing it in print from Lotus somewhere.

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I noticed soft top came off from the inside locking portion of the mechanism console. It seems as if it wasn't glued too well onto the inside portion of the solid piece on the passenger side. Any one else had this problem?

In retrospect, I think taking the soft top off and rolling the top so the exterior faces outwards will reduce the tension on the soft interior section.

I was rolling it with the soft side facing out so dirt and dust wouldn't get on the exterior rag top.

There is no mention in the manual for a correct way to roll it up before you place it in the draw string cover they provide. Hmmm...... Other than that NO issues at all!
Yeh, I think rolling it up from one end with the liner out will really stress the liner, and putting it in the bag like that will pull on it some more. I always roll mine up to the midsection (i.e. from each side) with the exterior out. It then goes into the bag very easily and no issues at all with leaks, tears, or anything. When I go to put it back on, I lay the entire thing over the center of the opening, unroll the half to the left side and attach it, then walk around the car to unroll the rest and attach it to the right side. Might sound a bit tricky, but it really isn't.
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Top delaminating

I also experienced the top defect.The soft liner was separating and the plastic side molding that houses locking mechanism popped loose.
The dealer inspected and replaced top immediately...
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When I picked up my car the liner was separating and the salesman replaced it with the one from their show model which was fine (I checked).

Two months later (today) I put the soft top on for the first time and now this top is separating.

This car is great but there are diffenately some QC issues.
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I got my soft top replaced due to the liner separation issue, and since have been extremely careful to roll it up with liner on the inside, yet it has once again become separated. A little disappointing but I hope they will not charge me for fixing it again.
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My liner has separated and sags badly when the top is in place, but the edges have not come away anywhere- are all the replacements due to the edges coming loose?

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My liner has separated and sags badly when the top is in place, but the edges have not come away anywhere- are all the replacements due to the edges coming loose?
That's the first I've heard of sagging. All the other posts have been edges coming loose. This must have cost Lotus a friggin fortune in replacements.

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Same thing with my top, but I'm not sure it's worth replacing. Both sides were sagging due to the glue giving out, so I helped the process out. The roof still works great without the liner at all.

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Same thing with my top, but I'm not sure it's worth replacing. Both sides were sagging due to the glue giving out, so I helped the process out. The roof still works great without the liner at all.
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Same thing with my top, but I'm not sure it's worth replacing. Both sides were sagging due to the glue giving out, so I helped the process out. The roof still works great without the liner at all.
I eventually ended up doing the same thing myself -- too hard to drive with the liner hanging in your face!

I assume the primary purpose of the liner is for sound-deadening purposes. I can't say I notice any difference with and without the liner. OTOH, I wonder how much thermal insulation the liner provides -- the noon-day sun is mighty stong down here and the AC can use all the help it can get!
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Thermal insulation was my only reason for keeping it on.
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like jac

the thermal benefits are there.

The liner fell out of mine as well. I did notice it was hotter in the car with out the liner. Probably has benies with the A/C too. Noise is not an issue either the radio is up - way up - or the guy next to me is screaming so loud I can hear the road noise.

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Just FYI,

I just got my soft top replaced today, I had reported the problem about a month ago but couldn't get over there until today, and the service guys mentioned that Lotus has stopped replacing these and has asked the dealers to fix (reglue) them now, not sure if that's true for all cases/situations but just wanted to pass along the info.

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Hopefully the glue they use to bond the chassis together is better than the glue they use to bond the soft top to the side beams and the hard top cover to the velcro thingie...
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Just FYI,

I just got my soft top replaced today, I had reported the problem about a month ago but couldn't get over there until today, and the service guys mentioned that Lotus has stopped replacing these and has asked the dealers to fix (reglue) them now, not sure if that's true for all cases/situations but just wanted to pass along the info.
My dealer just re-glued mine this week when I had it in (to re-fix my oil leak). For whatever reason, the top doesn't roll the same as it use to. The liner is a lot tauter than the canvas roof, so the roof ends up "buckling" when I roll it up.

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For whatever reason, the top doesn't roll the same as it use to. The liner is a lot taughter than the canvas roof, so the roof ends up "buckling" when I roll it up.
Same with mine. I think I got a repaired roof as well. As long as the liner doesn't come back out, I don't really care. Besides, it's off most of the time anyways!
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i had my car for a day and when i got home and took off the roof i noticed it was separated (this all happened about 6 months ago). HRM gave me a replacement roof on the spot....the new roof seems to be much better....but i dont use the roof....i keep it off while the car is in the garage....if the weather is bad enough to need the roof...i take another car.

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