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Revealed today at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, the Lotus 3-Eleven takes the brand's philosophy of performance through light weight to a new level.

Weighing less than 2,000 lbs and making 450-hp horsepower from a supercharged 3.5-liter V6 engine, the 3-Eleven promises to be, "an uncompromised manifestation of the Lotus spirit."

To be offered in both road and race trims, Lotus says it will be the quickest Lotus ever, with a 0-60 mph time of less than 3.0 seconds and a top speed of 180 mph (road version).

Full power comes on at 7000 rpm with max torque of 332 lb-ft available from 3500 rpm to 6500 rpm.

Both Road and Race versions will be available, with the street car making use of a 6-speed manual transmission while the track model will come with a 6-speed sequential transmission using paddle shifters.

Race models will also get a more aggressive aero kit and meet FIA specs with a racing seat and six-point harness.

Based on a new aluminum chassis, the 3-Elevent makes use of a lightweight composite body with an open top design.

Power makes it to the ground using 225/40 ZR18 front and 275/35 ZR19 rear Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. Race versionw ill make use of Michelin Cup 2 tires.

“This new car is a giant slayer, capable of embarrassing far more expensive rivals," said Lotus CEO Jean-Marc Gales speaking at the car's unveiling. "It condenses our engineering know-how into one, hard-core package, and is so focused that it won’t suit everyone. This is a perfect demonstration of the faster and lighter concept, something which will be crucial to all Lotus cars in the future.”

Just 311 examples of the 3-Eleven will be made with production beginning in February of 2016 and deliveries in April.

U.S. pricing has not been announced, not has Lotus confirmed if the car will be sold in North America. Pricing in the UK is set at £82,000 for the Road version and £115,200 for the Race version.
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I always thought the Exige V6 rear end was missing something, but this one nailed it. Hopefully some of the design will make its way back to the US if they replace the Elige here


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That thing is gorgeous! I wish the front of the Evora 400 looked something more like that.


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Please for the love of God bring this to the U.S. Market! I need this in my garage.
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Forgive me if this is a silly question... How's its performance compare with an sp300r? Im not well read on the sp but it looks like it could turn a fast lap.

3eleven also very cool. And very out of budget. The sp is more in my budget. ...but still way out of budget.
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Design is not working for me... and the price is definitely not working.
Good to see that the CEO [in the video] says to "watch this space" for more new developments
Fingers crossed !!

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Looks awesome except for the wheels - too big. What's up with the ride height? Too high off the ground.

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That thing is gorgeous! I wish the front of the Evora 400 looked something more like that.
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Please for the love of God bring this to the U.S. Market! I need this in my garage.
+2, I hope this will eventually become a US certified road car - I would definitely buy a 450hp DOT approved Exige. Does anyone know what the function of the huge cut outs on the body behind the front wheel are for other than the exit of hot air from oil and brake cooling? Do the large flat planks and Coke bottle waist generate additional down force similar to what's on F1 cars?
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I can't imagine this will make it to the US as a road car, just no way they'll take the time or expense to get it certified for all the safety stuff it would have to go through. Same reason the Exige V6 didn't make it here and with them only making 311 of them it might be unlikely that we even get the race version. That's scant few for world wide allocation.

Personally I think it looks rather fantastic and agree with other comments that they especially nailed the rear end. I'm also digging the sides, very Ferrari F12 if you ask me and also agree that the front end looks far far better than the Evora 400. If they have designers that can get it this right how could they get the front/rear of the 400 so wrong?

Also agree that it's a bummer they went with 17/18 wheels vs. an Elige standard 16/17 setup. I'm guessing the ground clearance in the picture is misleading as I can't imagine that it's that far up off the ground for the aero to be fully effective. The main issue I see is the utter lack of aftermarket support - same issue for the Exige V6, at least in the US. It would be hard to pick this over a fully built Exige given the plethora of aftermarket knowledge and support. Doing the math my car has roughly the same power to weight and my assumption would be could do an overall equivalent lap time once I go sequential - and for less money. Then again there's nothing like a factory built/supported racecar and damn the design on this thing is sexy.

I'll say it again - it's great that they're bringing out new models like this but what they really need is the next Esprit. Something that will slay a Ferrari 458/488 for under $200k. Something that would be under 3000 lbs, have over 500hp and look stunning. Say what you want about Danny but he at least had a vision for the future of the company that I feel is lacking right now. Was it too ambitious, clearly - but IMHO it's far better than what we're hearing now, things like an SUV in 2017. A Lotus SUV, really, are you f'ing kidding me???

Anyway a stunning car that few of us in the states will ever probably see.

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If two cars have the same power/weight ratio... the lighter car will very likely be faster.

This is especially true if they basically share the same chassis/suspension/etc

I may have some actual real-world experience in this area. Just sayin'
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+1 - I didn't want to say that but I think you're exactly right. The lighter car will have less mass to move around and as such my assumption is that isn't a linear solution is it? While the 3-11 looks awesome I wouldn't see me swapping my currently built beast for it unless I had stupid money and was going to own both. If you're new to something like that however (the mass majority of prospective customers) it looks like an amazing proposition.

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Anyway a stunning car that few of us in the states will ever probably see.
There were 358 2 Eleven models built up til December 2011 so chances are there should be a handful of 3 Eleven's here in the States, but your right, it will be a rare site. Chances are zero to none that we'll see a road legal version in this market though.
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There were 358 2 Eleven models built up til December 2011 so chances are there should be a handful of 3 Eleven's here in the States, but your right, it will be a rare site. Chances are zero to none that we'll see a road legal version in this market though.
Is that right? Only 358 2-Eleven cars total worldwide?

Since I've owned two 2-Elevens... I'd say my chances of owning one of 311 3-Elevens is better than I thought.

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I do like this front end so much more than the mess the 400 looks to have.

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Also agree that it's a bummer they went with 17/18 wheels vs. an Elige standard 16/17 setup. I'm guessing the ground clearance in the picture is misleading as I can't imagine that it's that far up off the ground for the aero to be fully effective. The main issue I see is the utter lack of aftermarket support - same issue for the Exige V6, at least in the US. It would be hard to pick this over a fully built Exige given the plethora of aftermarket knowledge and support. Doing the math my car has roughly the same power to weight and my assumption would be could do an overall equivalent lap time once I go sequential - and for less money. Then again there's nothing like a factory built/supported racecar and damn the design on this thing is sexy.
the wheels are actually 18/19.

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I do like this front end so much more than the mess the 400 looks to have.
Agree, unfortunately this comes right of the Exige V6 which has a narrower front that the Evora so no parts swapping .. someone want to pull a mold stretch its width and produce Evora replacements?? #HKFever , are you up for this? #TurboPhil , I've been watching your new body modeling skills, do you want to use your Evora as a guinea pig to make a prototype front end. Al we need to an Exige V6 owner willing to have a plug pulled off his front end.

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I do like this front end so much more than the mess the 400 looks to have.
+1 The Evora 400 looks like it's part of Optimus Prime.
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Who know's maybe maybe maybe it will work in the flesh.

But the original Evora body is just about perfect. Trying to graft on Lambo inspired half body kit is saddening.

Especially as I have just sold our wonderful Evora. Would be nice to think there could be another very satisfying Lotus GT in the future

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