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I wish you would have shown the back window area - what is there - smooth, textured, carpeted?

Also, those decals aren't helping the lines of the car at all. What was someone thinking with that design?
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Thanks for photo's! We can't wait to see more. Wonder if can be ordered without black graphics . Can CF panels be painted?

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Is that white Exige the 260 cup or the 09 Exige for the US?
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Wonder if can be ordered without black graphics . Can CF panels be painted? Jeff and Pamela
If it is a limited edition car, for resale purposes, you may not want to remove the graphics, but I suppose you could buy an extra set just in case. CF panels can be painted, as you will note, the CF roof and front access panels on this Cup 260 are partially painted.
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I wish you would have shown the back window area - what is there - smooth, textured, carpeted?

Also, those decals aren't helping the lines of the car at all. What was someone thinking with that design?
The back of the cockpit is covered in what appeared to be a mildly textured, one-piece cover that extended down behind the seats. It may have consisted of some sound deadening or heat insulation material. I didn't pay a lot of attention to it, except to note that there is no rear window any more.

I don't think the graphics are necessarily indicative of how all the cars will come.

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The back of the cockpit is covered in what appeared to be a mildly textured, one-piece cover that extended down behind the seats. It may have consisted of some sound deadening or heat insulation material. I didn't pay a lot of attention to it, except to note that there is no rear window any more.
Looks like the rear view mirror has been deleted also.

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I don't think the graphics are necessarily indicative of how all the cars will come.
From the reactions, that will be a good thing.

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Thanks for the additional info! It will be a interesting few weeks as the 09 detail come out.

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Thanks for the additional info! It will be a interesting few weeks as the 09 detail come out.

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The build details may be available at the LA Auto Show, so someone will likely post them up when and if they know - "interesting" is right, very. There are a few surprises in store, I am sure.

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Can someone tell me the advantages/disavantages of the alcantara material? It looks like it is used extensively in the interior of the S260 and although I know this material is also used in other cars, including exotics, frankly, I like the look of the leather in the S240 better. I haven't seen or touched the material in person.

So, what am I missing here and why is it so widely used?

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Can someone tell me the advantages/disavantages of the alcantara material? It looks like it is used extensively in the interior of the S260 and although I know this material is also used in other cars, including exotics, frankly, I like the look of the leather in the S240 better. I haven't seen or touched the material in person.

So, what am I missing here and why is it so widely used?

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if the Exige S 260 has those carbon parts on it...easily will sell around 90k. No less, I actually think it would be around 100k.

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if the Exige S 260 has those carbon parts on it...easily will sell around 90k. No less, I actually think it would be around 100k.
You do know it is $75K, except destination, color upgrades and Starshield right?

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From the Alcantara web site........
Thank you. I would also like to hear an opinion as to feel and wear on this material if anyone can offer that as well.

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I have never owned a car with it, so I can't comment on the wear. However, I do have two points that might be helpful as I have been in some cars with it.

1) It feels nice to the touch, sort of suede like.
2) It certainly holds you in place better, does not get hot in the sun like leather does.

I have not been in a car on the track with Alcantra, but I can clearly imagine how the second bullet above, would be helpful in a track car. Having said that, I track the standard Exige regularly and have no issues given how well the seat wraps around you. I do believe I would still choose Alcantra over leather if given the choice at equal cost.

However, I do prefer the leather smell and I just love sitting down in my Exige and taking a deep breath before I push the start button.


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I have never owned a car with it, so I can't comment on the wear. However, I do have two points that might be helpful as I have been in some cars with it.

1) It feels nice to the touch, sort of suede like.
2) It certainly holds you in place better, does not get hot in the sun like leather does.

I have not been in a car on the track with Alcantra, but I can clearly imagine how the second bullet above, would be helpful in a track car. Having said that, I track the standard Exige regularly and have no issues given how well the seat wraps around you. I do believe I would still choose Alcantra over leather if given the choice at equal cost.

However, I do prefer the leather smell and I just love sitting down in my Exige and taking a deep breath before I push the start button.

Thanks - very helpful. I will see the S260 Saturday and take a look. Just from pics, I think I prefer the look of the shiny leather over the dull suede look - maybe because it matches the shine on my bald head better.

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Can anyone confirm weather Alcantara will stain like Suede?

You know how they have suede brushes to comb the nap (or whatever you call it) and restore the fuzziness, can the Alcantara material harden and the nap get ruined like suede?

With leather, I can use a good leather cleaner and conditioner and wipe off spills. I worry that Alcantara will stain (get soiled and wear odd), not clean easily and nap.

Some cars have Alcantara steering wheels - I just imagine that would last about a year and have permanent marks wherever you grip the wheel.
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Can anyone confirm weather Alcantara will stain like Suede?
Doesn't seem to. I have Alcantara inserts in my S4 and it holds up very well. Doesn't crush or seem to stain at all and mine are light grey. My kids haven't been able to ruin the seats yet.

The best part of Alcantara is how well you stick to the seats in corners. It's like velcro.

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Thank you. I would also like to hear an opinion as to feel and wear on this material if anyone can offer that as well.
I have a stock option alcantar seat inserts. Alcantar and leather Both. Best of both worlds imo.

I love it. It holds you better. Its tough and doesnt wear and crack like leather. It doesnt leave marks when you brush it either like suede does.,




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I have a stock option alcantar seat inserts. Alcantar and leather Both. Best of both worlds imo.

I love it. It holds you better. Its tough and doesnt wear and crack like leather. It doesnt leave marks when you brush it either like suede does.
Sounds better than I thought - cool, thanks!

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