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Dealer Costs for 2006 & 2007

I finished my sports car shopping to replace my '95 M3 that some some dolt whacked. I won't post here much, but here's a little gift I picked up for you folks on my car shopping adventure:

Dealer Costs:
2006
  • Elise $39,691
  • Exige $41,643
2007
  • Elise $43,900
  • Exige $46,270

For comparison, I picked up the Cayman S car (pictured in my profile) for $63,769. Dealer Retail Sticker was $70,240. My Cayman S has:
- Center Console Painted Blue (exterior color)
- Rear Luggage Partition
- Painted Spoiler Lip
- Fire Extinguisher
- PASM option (as well as PSM which is stnd.)
- Sport Chrono without PCM
- Heated Seats
- Automatic Climate Control
- Leather Seats
- Porsche Aluminum Dead Pedal
- Porsche Sport Steering Wheel (911 style)

I'm getting 28.4 mpg on trips. I am so happy I can't stand it. I loved the Exige & Elise both. Very nice cars. And I couldn't stop fantasizing about all the women I could assist getting out of the Elise for dinner wearing their little black dresses (talk about P-machine! the Elise practically hands it to you! if you can't get it with the Elise, you can't get it)

But after much reflection, the better fantasy was the dinner companion bent over the mid-engine compartment cover, and I could only picture doing this in the Cayman (it's a large carpeted area).

Just don't get arrested for public displays of ~deep~ affection (AKA indecent exposure) doing this, or else you might end up with a life-time record in the sex-offender database in your state!

Enjoy your cars & the numbers provided above. The Elise & Exige really are fantastic cars, and I almost bought the Elise. But, it just wasn't right for me.

Oh, insurance I was quoted by State Farm on the Elise was a bit more than the Porsche S (but not a whole lot more.)
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but here's a little gift I picked up for you folks on my car shopping adventure:

Dealer Costs:
2006
  • Elise $39,691
  • Exige $41,643
2007
  • Elise $43,900
  • Exige $46,270
Good luck with the Cayman as I'm sure it will fill your needs but, those numbers are WAY OFF.
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Good luck with the Cayman as I'm sure it will fill your needs but, those numbers are WAY OFF.
Then what are the numbers because I am in the market for an Exige S.
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Then what are the numbers because I am in the market for an Exige S.
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Finding the "dealer cost" numbers for the Elise/Exige is was impossible when I bought my Elise. There seems to be some agreement on dealer pricing for almost every other car out there, but nothing for the Lotus.

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Well porsche makes on average $16,000 per car. Ford $550

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Good luck with the Cayman as I'm sure it will fill your needs but, those numbers are WAY OFF.
What's the point in mentioning the numbers are way off, and not say what they are?
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I alway think dealers average 15% on msrp.
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I figure a loaded 2005 was around $41K-$42K or so.
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thats what porsche and ford make, not the dealers.
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What's the point in mentioning the numbers are way off, and not say what they are?
No offence but, what's the point in having a search function if you're not going to use it? but, if it makes you feel better, 10%.
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I figure a loaded 2005 was around $41K-$42K or so.
A brand new 2005 Lotus Elise in lifestyle color with all the options had an MSRP of $51,360
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No offence but, what's the point in having a search function if you're not going to use it? but, if it makes you feel better, 10%.
So, using Edmund's MSPR for 2006 figures, the dealer profit margin is:

-Elise: $4,299 ($38,691)
-Exige: $5,099 ($45,891)

Back in the day (around 2003), I believe Porsche's profit margins were around $6,000 for a Boxster S and $10,000 for a Carrera - but I'm pulling this from memory.

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No offence but, what's the point in having a search function if you're not going to use it? but, if it makes you feel better, 10%.
That would mean in 2006 when dealers were trying to unload the unsold 05's they dumped them below their cost? I think not.
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That would mean in 2006 when dealers were trying to unload the unsold 05's they dumped them below their cost? I think not.
There could have been some incentives from Lotus that we (customers) weren't aware of. Also, sales to future allocations could be a factor too.

2005 Lotus Elise- SOLD 6/9/07
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That would mean in 2006 when dealers were trying to unload the unsold 05's they dumped them below their cost? I think not.
Only half right. Towards the end of the 2005 run, Lotus gave a $2500 incentive to dealers in order to move the units and because of this, Lotus made less cars for '06 models and will make even less for 2007 but, then again, this can all be found under the "SEARCH" function
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There could have been some incentives from Lotus that we (customers) weren't aware of. Also, sales to future allocations could be a factor too.
Allan, are you sure you don't work for Lotus? You seem to be spot on.
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Allan, are you sure you don't work for Lotus? You seem to be spot on.
No, if I worked for Lotus, I'd be driving the Canyon Red Exige S -like the one that's on your lot right now.

And knowing what invoice is, I guess I shouldn't be asking for the $8K discount -at least not yet. So, when do you have to meet your sales quota for 2008 allocations?

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A brand new 2005 Lotus Elise in lifestyle color with all the options had an MSRP of $51,360
I meant what the dealer has to pay Lotus for the car.
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