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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-10-2015, 02:24 PM Thread Starter
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'73 Lotus Europa TC Saggy Door

Hello All,

I am sure there is a thread on here somewhere. The old driver side door is getting really saggy. I need to lift it up about 3 inches to close it.

Where shall I start?

Is there a rebuild kit or something similar for this problem?

Thanks a million,

Bud

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-10-2015, 02:40 PM
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Uh oh. Sounds like the dreaded door hinge problem. Not pleasant. But if you do the fix with modern parts you'll be ok. Just won't be pleasant for you. This is one of the more annoying problems with Europas.

You will get better detailed info in the Knowledge Base at Lotus Europa Central.

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OK. I will check in there. Thank you

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At LOG I felt an Europa driver's door with no sag. Could not believe it! One of the highlights of the weekend. Really..

Very common problem, but your's is pronounced. The guys over at Europa Central will steer you right. It can be fixed just fine. There are kits and special tools and such awaiting you on this adventure. Take pictures please and maybe make a thread here for the repair.

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Bud,

You will need to fabricate a couple of specialized wrenches to fit the nuts on the hinge pin. I'm planning to do my door hinge in a couple of weeks; the door sag is similar to yours. Send me a PM, you can borrow my set or I'll describe how to make your own set.

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Thanks for all the help Lads! I have just pinged Jim Bobowski about nabbing a set of his hinge wrenches - if he still handles them. I agree the doors have always been a bit limp but the driver's side suddenly started sagging big time. In the wide open position I can raise and lower the door up and down at about 4 inches of play. I am getting some bad scrapes on my sill from the data plates on the door. I live in a pretty dry climate and have always kept the TC garaged so I am certain the hinge pins have not rotted, but they may need some major attention. I found a LONG string of messages on Lotus Europa Central. I will keep you all posted.

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Dave Bean Engineering, Inc. The Official Vintage Lotus Car Parts Distributor carries new stainless steel hinges JUST for that problem !!

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While there are kits of stainless steel parts, as well as a completely revised hinge system from Richard Winter in the UK, the old hinge assembly has probably just loosened up. First take a shot at tightening it up per the manual. If you find it's all rusted into one lump, and nothing turns, then worry about replacing it all. But if the nuts still turn, back everything off, apply Anti-Seize, and cinch it all up again.

The weather stripping pushes outward on the doors... especially the Twin Cam's bulb-seal type. That makes it difficult to press the door inward into position while working in the door to tighten up the hinge. So remove the weather stripping first, adjust the door, then replace the weather stripping.

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