Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Tail of the Dragon
Differences in the cars? The interior on the Noble is slightly larger, so a bit more rommy, specially with a passenger. The seats are not as close together.
Sills are lower in the Noble so ingress/egress is easier. Also there is a full rollcage around the doors and windshield so it is easy to grab onto.
More plusher interior in the Noble. Less transmitted noises and less direct heat being transferred.
Seats are more padded in the Noble, very comfortable. I like being able to rest my right arm on the padded and covered center console. Which makes shifting quite nice since the shifter is a very short stubby deal.
Not claustrophobic at all, but then I don't think the Elise was either. Nice in the Elise to be able to remove the roof, I do miss that a little.
Sight lines and visibility are almost the same. I have good visibility out the rear between the clam upswept lines and the wing. A bit of a "letterboxing" effect which is handy at night if there are bright lights behind me. A small head movement and I can see quite well. Side mirrors are a bit limited, just like the Lotus. I wanted my Multivex mirrors. Backing out, just like the Lotus. Side mirrors have interior adjustments, but I can't reach the passenger one from my seat.
Car is a bit wider. With the 6 point harness on, I can't reach the passenger side mirror, window, or the radio (it has a remote control). With a lapbelt on (car has both sets of belts on both seats), I can reach the radio, swap CDs. But I can't roll down the passenger window.
Noble has very good AC and heater.
Noble sound system is good.
Noble is a touch quieter than the Elise, specially in the gearbox noises that the Elise made. The stock exhaust on the Noble is very quiet, perhaps a bit too much? The main noise is all the wooshing from the blow off valve.
Clutch is similar. Heal and toe is easier than my Elise. Accelerator pedal on the Noble seems more flimsy. Shifting is shorter and more precise in the Noble. Except that 5-6 are quite notchy and take more effort to engage.
Noble's brakes are awesome.
The only storage is behind the seats. It is a little more than the Elise there and the passenger seat moves. There is also a shelf area behind the seats. No trunk. So the Elise can haul more than the Noble. I was able to fit small duffel bags behind the seats in the Noble.
Both cars have the laminar heat flow from the front radiator coming around the cockpit. Both cars have the issue of heatsoaking from long drives. The Noble does not have the sills heating up, but the center tunnel does, but since it is force air cooled, that is not too bad.
Power steering on the Noble is quite nice. When I lost the belt in Atlanta, the car was almost impossible to drive in a parking lot.
I like to gauges in the Noble. Oil pressure. Oil temps. Coolant temps. RPM. Speed. Odometer. Boost. I want to add a clock (I added on the Elise).
The full rollcage is handy for attaching things to. It is 100% covered in Alcantara so you don't even see it really.
The fuses are inside the car, so that is handy.
The clams hinge open on the Noble, another handy thing.
Getting the belly pan off the Noble makes the complaints about the number of fasteners on the Elise diffuser, laughable. I counted 134 screws.
Noble is harder on the brakes and creates more dust that gets on the side of the car.
Elise windows roll all the way down. I can live with the Noble only rolling half way down, but I wish they would go all the way down.
No manual locks in the Noble. If the alarm does not work, that is a problem, but there is a work around for that, which I had to use when my battery was dead.
Access to the battery in the Noble is a little harder as it sits on the belly pan in the middle of the car.
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2005 Lotus Elise, 1993 MR2, 1995 MR2, 125cc Shifter Kart, Toniq (in build), 2018 Origin 7 (waiting), 2018 Origin Noble M (waiting)