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2017 GTR Impressions

So as some of you know, I traded in my 2016 C7 Z51 (with 2025 miles) in on a 2017 Nissan GTR. A Nissan, right? Seems weird to me too.

A few asked for my impressions on the car so I decided to start a new thread in the appropriate forum. I have less than 200 miles on the car so I'll update this thread periodically.

Had clear bra applied to the entire front end (to include fenders, hood and mirrors).

Manual says to stay below 3500 rpm and 50% throttle for the first 300 miles. Fortunately, you can select a virtual throttle gauge. I've only gone to about 40% throttle and at 3500 rpm this thing is quick. Bear in mind I'm seeing no boost with normal shifts. Shifting manually with the paddle shifters (upshifts mostly) to allow for varying of rpms during break in.

I think you feel the heft of the weight during braking. Not that this thing doesn't stop, it does very nicely, but I feel the pedal very progressively under deceleration. The GTR stops more quickly than most everything out there. The huge calipers are there for a reason.

Build quality and fit/finish are very good to outstanding. I didn't find anything to complain about from the showroom floor. That is unusual.

I haven't taken this to the canyons yet so I'll leave the cornering/handling impressions out for now. Feels very planted in the corners with good feedback from the driver controls. Not numb at all.

I can see why some say this car is boring. It's just too easy to get yourself into trouble quickly, and this is with myself being limited to <50% throttle and 3500 rpms. At 100% throttle and redline this is just going to be a moving violation.

A fellow forum member picked one of these up a few years ago and to paraphrase his impressions after owning a lot of the supercars out there, he stated "this might be the best car I've ever driven". High praise and he had owned true supercars worth several hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm making payments. Your mileage may vary.

Lastly, I still have my 2007 Lotus Exige S, a new 2016 BMW S1000RR, 2017 Yamaha R1M and a 2016 Toyota Tacoma Sport 4X4 (if that counts). Pick the right tool for the job.

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I have a friend that used to have a mildly tuned GTR, I think 650 to the wheels (nothing these days). The car was fascinating to drive, the feel of the power was just, so docile, and so violent at the same time. A wonder, to be sure. I'd be lying if I said it didn't remind me of my old STi, it did, only heavier. The car feels weightless under throttle, but everywhere else I was aware of the weight. I think his was 3,800 lbs, but felt more like 3,000. Anyway, a joy to drive, and I'm certain you're going to enjoy yours. Make sure to update with spank impressions .

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I wonder how much weight can be dropped from this car without going crazy. I'd think at least 200-300 lbs should be possible.

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I wonder how much weight can be dropped from this car without going crazy. I'd think at least 200-300 lbs should be possible.
Not sure. I know there is a lot of carbon and magnesium in the mix already.

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Congrats and enjoy! I have driven a few GTRs and they're great cars.

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They'll always be a Datsun to me. But they are like the ugly chick with the great body, bang'm all day but keep the bag over their head.
Shi!!Y car to teach in. There are so many electroannies at work , its just a lot easier to say, rent a Spec Miata for a while if you want to learn to drive. In a GTR, you'll be one of the fastest out on track even if you don't have a clue. Depends on what you want. They still voiding warranties if you shut the TC off??

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They'll always be a Datsun to me. But they are like the ugly chick with the great body, bang'm all day but keep the bag over their head.
Shi!!Y car to teach in. There are so many electroannies at work , its just a lot easier to say, rent a Spec Miata for a while if you want to learn to drive. In a GTR, you'll be one of the fastest out on track even if you don't have a clue. Depends on what you want. They still voiding warranties if you shut the TC off??
I have no need to rent a car to "learn" to drive.

A decade or so ago the warranty was being voided for using the launch control.

Nissan doesn't recommend turning the TC off unless you're stuck in mud/whatever. Not sure why you'd be subjecting a GTR to that.

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I certainly understand what is meant by renting a car to learn to drive. A GTR would make learning proper dynamics and technique difficult to impossible.

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I like the face Lift the GTR recently got......a lot.

I just like the engagement of a manual transmission. Not knocking the GTR at all....just my personal preference.

Like many of us I was buying new cars too often before 2008, after the economic downturn and a second divorce I had to change my car buying habits. I had 240z's, 300z's, growing up and even a new 350z in 2003. So.......I sold my S54 Z3M coupe and 6 speed C class. and got a G35 coupe. Which I drove till warranty was expired and then had a built engine, greddy TT ki, and a myriad of supporting mods installed. Even though it's 10 years old now, I love the harsh raw feel and incredible noises the beast makes.

I've heard stories, prob urban myths, about warranty claims being denied because of trivial nonsensical things like a trunk mat was removed.....BUT if you decide to mod that sucker down the line I would think you could make it a less refined and more brutal beast for not near what I spent on mine.

Are you considering Modding down the road?

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