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Looking for a new daily driver

Hey everyone, Planning on moving closer to work this summer and will no longer need a barebones commuting car.

So I want to upgrade my yaris to something more fun to drive on the daily with some fun acceleration

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PRICE: Less $10,000-20,000
Must be manual transmission
Somewhat reliable
Must have a Backseat that seats adults
good acceleration
prefer compact or mid size
oldest year: 2006
Cars I have been thinking about
Fiesta ST
M3
Acura TL-Type S
Audi S4/S5
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I was thinking this looked fun

a little older but I think you might be familiar with the mechanicals
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I have sympathy for people commuting in an older German car.

I think the obvious answer is a WRX.
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Mk6 VW golf R. Probably upper range of your budget.
I might be slightly biased though.
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I always thought the WRX's lack a lot in the looks department until the latest generation, but hard to find any 2014+ WRX manuals for my price range

The Corolla XRS was something i did consider very briefly, but had trouble finding them locally to me and don't want to spend that much for that age/platform

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I daily a Fiesta ST, on my 2nd one. It's one of the most enjoyable cars you can throw in a corner, no matter the price tag. The limits are not that high - but it is so well balanced. It's a FWD that wags its tail at will. Brilliant.

With just a plug in $600 Stage 1, you are at 220HP/250TQ or so. Get the Recaros. They are also bullet proof compared to some others on your list. I've had zero problems in 45,000 miles. The back seat is tiny, however.

I've also had a WRX - it pales in every aspect, save for engine noise. Just my $.02
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I am in the same boat and am in the process of buying a '14 Mini Cooper Clubman JCW. I wanted something tenacious, so the fiesta ST was a front-runner until I test drove one. The seats are so horrible they recently announced a redesign. My neck was sore after half an hour. And the transmission had a distinct vibration in 2nd gear at 3k that wasn't present in other gears. I can also fit my 29er mountain bike in the back of the clubman, so that was a big plus for me. The minis have a hard-earned reputation for poor reliability, but the '12+ cars got a much improved engine, just too late to shake the reputation. Either way, it's an easy car to work on, and that was one of the many reasons I wanted a manual (fewer computers).

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Get the Recaros.
I posted my comment before I saw you had posted this. I really think it depends heavily on how you are built, so a test drive is mandatory. If it wasn't for how the headrest pushed my head forward unnaturally, I'd probably be in one by now.

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kinda got burned on my last VW (09 Jetta TDI 6 spd) and my wife refuses to allow me to buy another VW

but I did drive a MK4 gti and really liked it

I also drove a ford fiesta base with the crappy auto (rental car) and I actually kind of thought it would be fun with a manual, which is why I thought the ST might be worth it.

Keep the suggestions coming!

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my wife refuses to allow me to buy another VW
This is unfortunate...if you can find a clean, well-cared for one that hasn't been modded to hell, they are absolutely brilliant for the money. In fact, I don't think there is anything else on the road that combines comfort, fun, practicality and value like a GTI.

Of course, if you want something bulletproof, you have to buy Japanese.
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Mk6 VW golf R. Probably upper range of your budget.
I might be slightly biased though.
88,000 miles and counting.
Agreed. My daily is an MK7 Golf R. I love that car.
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The Mazdaspeed3 is funky looking but it's a great car to drive.
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This is unfortunate...if you can find a clean, well-cared for one that hasn't been modded to hell, they are absolutely brilliant for the money. In fact, I don't think there is anything else on the road that combines comfort, fun, practicality and value like a GTI.

Of course, if you want something bulletproof, you have to buy Japanese.
The MKV is the one you want. (2006-2008) The 2008's are the last year including the FSI engine. Later 2008's are the problematic TSI engines.
The only bug with the FSI's is the cam follower for the high pressure fuel pump which wears out every 10k mi. If you keep that replaced ($30.00) and do the timing belt before 100K your good. I love a manual but the DSG with the paddle shifters is a hot set-up. Even in sport mode it will give you something to handle. The interiors are second to none. Nuff said. Mazda's-3's are definitely a consideration.

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I really enjoy our Civic Si. Just sporty enough. A little bit of work to get some good performance. Super smooth trans. Feels like it is not connected to anything. Driver involvement. And some neat features that all cars should have.

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I have a 2011 BMW 335i sedan with manual. Consider this vs. M3, as the latter is thirsty.

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It's a nice contrast to the Elise. Get either the 2006 330i or the 2011 335i, as the latter has the less troublesome N55 engine. The 2007-2010 335i's have the N54, which can be modded for more power than the N55, but at the price of reliability.

I picked mine up at the BMW Welt on a trip to Europe, but used ones that are stock and have been cared for are out there. Finding one with a manual can be tough, though.

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I still love my 2005 XRS. Stock except for exhaust.

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might go with a 335i as there seem to be plenty with the less price and seems to be a baby M3

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I'll sell you my Mini Countryman S All4 which meets all your criteria except its an auto

They're fun cars that are surprisingly practical.

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