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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-11-2018, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
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Wink Making new sportcar. Need your voice for design

Our group of enthusiasts in Russia is preparing to design a new car.
We want to build a light and very fast mid-engine suv, something like LOTUS EVORA, only a crossover.
We selected design works and now I ask for your opinion. I'm attaching a poll for you, I'm waiting for your voices!
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I won't be clicking on that link, but thanks for the chuckle.
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Mid engine crossover? Lost my vote right off the bat...
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This is official google link for pools, you can check it anyway
All pools in google looks like this link
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cyow5, why? You don't like sport cars? Or you think that mid engine SUV is bad idea?
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cyow5, why? You don't like sport cars? Or you think that mid engine SUV is bad idea?
That's a silly question - I own a sports car. I also own a hatchback, a sedan, and a motorcycle. Each one serves a specific purpose. A mid-engine SUV would suck as both an SUV (less interior volume due to packaging) and a sports car (high CG), and would be expensive enough that you could just buy a jeep (or whatever else) and a Lotus instead and get the best of both worlds.

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Toyota built mid-engine delivery vans for decades - one window van model was even imported to the US during the early days of the minivan craze. They didn't suck, exactly, but it was a weird packaging choice.

The primary argument for mid engine is that it reduces polar moment of inertia (gives better turn-in) and simplifies weight distribution management. The last three generations of Corvettes are essentially mid-engine cars - the engine is behind the front cross member, and the transmission is ahead of the rear axle. That said, it's definitely not a simple or 'lightness added' approach.

Frankly, if you want a high performance SUV (really an oxymoron), the smart way to do it is with hybrid drive to the second axle. Driveshafts and third members add weight and don't add value most of the time. An SUV (if it has any offroad capability at all) will always have a high center of gravity and will be a large box (that's the 'utility') with a lot of distributed bodywork weight. This automatically means that weight distribution will be pretty good. At this point, you're stuck with where to put the engine/transaxle/motor-generator package. Best packaging efficiency puts it forward. Best handling/performance puts it on the rear axle. That leaves you with a drive motor on the front axle - sort of a reversed Civic hybrid.

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