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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-02-2018, 07:43 AM Thread Starter
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R8?

Thinking about moving over to a 2010-2012 R8 (manual). Curious if anyone has done this, what the experience was like, and if anyone owns one near Chicago, if I could possibly drive it (gently) or at least go for a ride. Thanks!
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I won't point out who, but I know at least one local user here who has an Elise also semi-recently purchased a Gallardo (which is mechanically the same car). He did have an oil leak and received an insane service quote for it from a shop he went to (I am intentionally being very vague here) - fixed it himself in a few hours for about $600.

My take: I've been in an R8 (never drove one at speed though), and I can kind of take it or leave it. The car never had the same "wow" factor to me to drive (and everyone and their mom had a Gallardo, since it was Lamborghini's best selling car ever). Also, the convertible looks like a big rolling bathtub (which I actually prefer to the new one which just looks boring).

I know this statement is pretty much a cliche at this point and applies to most exotics you might move to from an Elise/Exige, but the Gallardo (and the R8) will feel faster, and will definitely have (a lot) more of that push-you-into-the-seat feeling, but they will feel less connected to the road. The point where driving it is "fun" is a speed at which you'll be risking yourself and others on the streets, or perfecting your laptimes on the track (which will really run up your consumables bill).

I suppose you could use it to try to pick up kinda questionable chicks at the club?
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I suppose you could use it to try to pick up kinda questionable chicks at the club?
Well, I don't spend too much time in the clubs anymore...

Decided to stick with the Elise in any case. There really is no replacement for this combination of purity, exotica, economy and efficiency.
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My co-worker has a 2010 R8. He left for another job a few weeks ago but is headed back soon. We were going to meet up and check out each other's ride, as he seems interested in my GT-R. I'll let you know what I find out.

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Two of the guys with whom I go driving on Sundays have V10 Audi R8s. They are great cars, but they are to the Elise, what an Apollo rocket is to an F15 fighter jet. Sure the rocket is more powerful and faster, but the F15 requires more skill to drive, and is more rewarding. When you test drive the R8, you might be lured in by the initial reaction to the comfortable seats, easy steering, luxurious leather-wrapped dash, raw power, and creature comforts. The danger is that after a few weeks, all those advantages will make you feel numb, and you'll wonder if you're missing the whole point of a sports car, which is to be in charge of, feel, and enjoy, the driving experience.

I'm fortunate enough to be able to own both a raw sports car like a supercharged Elise AND a refined piece of powerful engineering like a Porsche 911 4s. So if you can purchase the R8 AND keep the Elise, do it. If you can only have one, and you need it as a daily driver, pick the R8. If you can only have one, and it is to be used primarily for fun, I say keep the Elise.

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I'd agree with the above, great car to go with the Elise, not to replace it. I've been seriously considering getting an older v8 manual R8 for a nice weather daily. Drove a v10 manual a couple years ago, and can't get it out of my head since. Elise has grown to raw and punishing on the streets for me(modding it doesnt help!), and dedicating that strictly to track and getting something softer for the street seems like the smarter plan.

911 seems like a more reasonable choice, but man, the R8 is much more exciting to me. Plus, gated shifter!

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[QUOTE=gray;5901486]I won't point out who, but I know at least one local user here who has an Elise also semi-recently purchased a Gallardo (which is mechanically the same car). He did have an oil leak and received an insane service quote for it from a shop he went to (I am intentionally being very vague here) - fixed it himself in a few hours for about $600.

Maybe one reason for the high estimate is that not all Audi mechanics are qualified to work on the R8. Atlanta used to have only 2 R8 qualified mechanics (I don't know how many now).
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That made me curious. Is there a Lotus qualified mechanic that the factory enforces for warranty work atleast?
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Two of the guys with whom I go driving on Sundays have V10 Audi R8s. They are great cars, but they are to the Elise, what an Apollo rocket is to an F15 fighter jet. Sure the rocket is more powerful and faster, but the F15 requires more skill to drive, and is more rewarding. When you test drive the R8, you might be lured in by the initial reaction to the comfortable seats, easy steering, luxurious leather-wrapped dash, raw power, and creature comforts. The danger is that after a few weeks, all those advantages will make you feel numb, and you'll wonder if you're missing the whole point of a sports car, which is to be in charge of, feel, and enjoy, the driving experience.

I'm fortunate enough to be able to own both a raw sports car like a supercharged Elise AND a refined piece of powerful engineering like a Porsche 911 4s. So if you can purchase the R8 AND keep the Elise, do it. If you can only have one, and you need it as a daily driver, pick the R8. If you can only have one, and it is to be used primarily for fun, I say keep the Elise.

Hope that helps.
Same here, I bought a V8 Vantage because of the smells, sounds, sight and experience, still an involving and tactile driving machine, but it's never going to be a replacement for the raw, connected, pure interaction that you get with an Elise so both are sitting in the garage.
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There are couple Evora owners that trade/brought the newer R8 and went back to the Evora. See post #4407 - 4415 in https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f17.../index221.html for their feedbacks.
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Maybe one reason for the high estimate is that not all Audi mechanics are qualified to work on the R8. Atlanta used to have only 2 R8 qualified mechanics (I don't know how many now).
Again, I'm intentionally being very vague here. The high quote (think in excess of $10k) was from an independent shop he had taken his German cars to so having a qualified mechanic was not really the issue here. The mechanical problem was on a Gallardo, and was fixed using Audi parts since the R8 and Gallardo are basically the same car.

I also failed to mention that I think the last-generation convertible R8 looks like a bathtub, especially in white.

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