Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Central Virginia
Had this exact conversation in the parking lot waiting for boy scouts to get loaded into family trucksters. We were comparing a friend's well-loved Honda Pilot, which has actual off-road capability with a Toyota Rav4 (about five years newer), a Mopar minivan, a 4-dr Jeep JL Wrangler, and a Subaru wagon.
Conclusion: the sube wagon is the same vehicle the Rav4 is but with better utility because it doesn't fake being an offroad vehicle -- same ground clearance, same wheelbase, but driveline takes up less cubage, so isn't so tall, thus has less aero drag. The Pilot, surprisingly, had the same (out of the box) off-road capability as the Jeep, but had more interior volume (and attendant comfort) because it didn't have a ladder frame and conventional driveline eating up otherwise useful space.
I suspect the sube handles the best of them as well, as its CG is at least 6" lower than anything else in the list. The minivan is probably second.
The Grand Caravan had an insanely clever flat-floor stowing 60/40 third row seat option that showed that somebody at Daimler Chrysler (as it was at that time) understood why people buy minivans. It had no sex appeal, but it hauled a lot of scouts and gear, just like it was supposed to.
The Wrangler makes lots of sense only if you want your serious off-road vehicle to have four doors and mod it into a serious offroad vehicle. A stock one is an awful station wagon, but that's what people use them for.
A whole lot of bad compromises, most of which are caused by function following form, which is in turn caused by buyers being unwilling to admit that they need a station wagon or a utility people hauler (minivan), and not a vehicle that actually involves 'sport' (on or off pavement) in any way.