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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-06-2011, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
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Door pull "cup" removal?

I've got some carbon fiber door pulls and have no idea as to how they come off the car. (they're the plastic part that's at the top of the door you'd grab to pull it closed.)





Do I basically rip them off and RTV them back on, or is there a clip system I don't see?

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Those look great! Where did you get them? I'm not too fond of the plastic ones...

No idea what the official replacement procedure is, sorry.
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I bought them from Carbon John, a former vendor of the site. Due to long lead times, most people aren't recommending him, but if you can deal with the long lead times...

Extended wait times aside, the quality of the product is pretty damn high. Can't wait to get them in the car, once I figure out how.
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oh well...

He still owes me engine covers...

They do look great, though. Glad you got them.
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I have original leather ones on the way. If you figure out that there's some special way to remove, please post pics.
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How to remove them? Drive around some twisty roads with a friend who thinks the door trim is an oh-****-handle.

They're just glued on with the black adhesive Lotus likes to use everywhere. Pull to remove.
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maybe you have to remove them from inside the door. take the panel off and look in there. there are 5 screws, the 4 silver at the top and 1 black one facing inside towards the door handle (bottom corner) It's held in place by velcro and pegs.

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Can't you just look at the back of the carbon fiber ones that were sent to you? If there's nothing on the backs of them then it's pretty safe to assume they're glued in place or pressure fit, no?
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They are glued in, and are a major pain to remove.

My elise had a crack in one - I replaced it myself.

I'd invite you to be creative, but my method was to basically shave it off with a razor knife on tiny messy bit at a time. It was tedious and messy.

I applied the new one using 3m's grey sticky emblem tape. Clean the surfaces well and wiggle /w pressure and it should stay for a very long time.
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Thanks. I don't plan on saving the old ones (they're fairly inexpensive), so I guess I'll just cut a hole in from the top - checking carefully to be sure nothing below! - to gain a little more leverage/access. Do you think mild heat would soften the adhesive?
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I've got a heat gun, if you guys think it'll help.

I think Shay2Nak has the right idea. I need to adjust the window anyway, so this will be two birds and one stone.

I'll report back my findings with some pics if I can get it done in the next day or two.
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As SyTy says, the interior door pulls are bonded to the inner door... no fittings otherwise.
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I've got a heat gun, if you guys think it'll help.
A hair dryer may help. It was a warm day when my buddy pulled it off the door.

The tricky part for me is gluing it back on. I haven't found an adhesive that secures it well.

Someone mentioned 3m emblem tape... i'll give that a try.
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My stock ones are both cracked.

I took a putty knife that was a little over an inch wide and sharpened the (end) edge so I could slip it under the pull edge from the top instead of going inside the door. It cut though the rubbery adhesive pretty well. I tried using a heat gun, but it didn't seem to make a lot of difference. Once the piece is off, I can trim off the excess and glue down the new one.

By the way, the old pull was pretty much destroyed in removing it.

Not sure which adhesive, but leaning to normal silicone sealant. I am putting carbon replacements and there is a lot of open area between the door top and the pull. So, I might put a few globs in to fill some of the void before trying the final glue down.

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Not sure which adhesive, but leaning to normal silicone sealant. I am putting carbon replacements and there is a lot of open area between the door top and the pull. So, I might put a few globs in to fill some of the void before trying the final glue down.
Where did you get the carbon replacements? Is the material that much stronger that the originals?

I only have cracks in the driver handle.
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Not sure which adhesive, but leaning to normal silicone sealant. I am putting carbon replacements and there is a lot of open area between the door top and the pull. So, I might put a few globs in to fill some of the void before trying the final glue down.
Where did you get the carbon replacements? Is the material that much stronger that the originals?

I only have cracks in the driver handle.
I recommend these:
https://www.gregsraceparts.com/collections/carbon-fiber
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I got mine from Greg's, as well. They seem to be nicely made.

Sorry for the late reply. I didn't get any notification.

I haven't installed mine yet. I will probably fill some of the void first and let it set up, then attach to the door with more adhesive.


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How to remove them? Drive around some twisty roads with a friend who thinks the door trim is an oh-****-handle.
I am very vocal about this. The only approved method to hang on is both hands on the front corners of the passenger seat.

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A hair dryer may help. It was a warm day when my buddy pulled it off the door.

The tricky part for me is gluing it back on. I haven't found an adhesive that secures it well.
I have used GOOP on the front turn signals. I'd probably try that if I ever had trouble with the door pulls.

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You have to cut them out using a utility knife. Place some masking tape around the area to prevent damage while you are trying to cut it out.



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