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arjay 05-24-2019 11:09 PM

Help plse - locked out of 2008 ERxige S240
 
So, I live in Spain and own a Gulf spec S240 I imported from Dubai a couple of years ago (see other posts for this story). I recently sent my car to Lotus Madrid for the long overdue oil-line/union recall and replacement. It went by transporter - didn't fancy the long drive, costs of hotels and additional mileage on a low mileage car.

Got the car back yesterday. (Had to take possession a couple of miles away from home as the huge transporter could not get down roads near my house). It had a slightly flat battery - enough for windows and lights etc to work but would not turn over or start. Used jump leads and got the car home. Locked it via the key and connected it to a charger.

This morning, it was fully charged but the car would not open. Pressing the middle button disarms the immobiliser OK (and gives double flash of lights) - I can see this by watching the dash through the window. The system re-arms the immobiliser as it should after 40 seconds. But pressing the middle button does not operate the central locking. Driver door button is up and passenger door one is down. If I press the top key button (the one with the logo) the alarm sounds three times and the lights flash in sync with the alarm. If I press the bottom button, nothing happens (is it supposed to be an emergency alarm signal)? I know that Gulf cars were not fitted with any internal/movement sensors - but not sure about the panic alarm function.

Spoke to Lotus in Madrid who suggested two things. First hold down the middle and bottom buttons simultaneously. This made no subsequent difference. The other was to disconnect the battery which I did for a couple of hours (via the terminals in the front panel) but that also made no difference. Incidentally, not sure if the alarm is supposed to sound on disconnection or reconnection of battery, but nothing happens. I have two good keys and tried both - same result.

Can anyone suggest what else to do?

TIA - Richard

kfennell 05-25-2019 04:36 AM

There are two seperate locks. The one controlled by the buttons, and an actual lock on the door you turn with the key. Are both unlocked?

exigegus 05-25-2019 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by arjay (Post 5950258)
=But pressing the middle button does not operate the central locking. Driver door button is up and passenger door one is down.
TIA - Richard


If the button is up, one would think it is unlocked, and as kfennel says check that the manual exterior button lock is unlocked, it is a separate system

arjay 05-25-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kfennell (Post 5950286)
There are two seperate locks. The one controlled by the buttons, and an actual lock on the door you turn with the key. Are both unlocked?

Sorry - I must be mistaken. I was told that on this model only the key buttons work and that the key in the lock has no effect. Never tried that before.

In any case, turning the key in the lock on my car has no effect - there is not even any feeling of some resistance.:frown2:

Update - just been out to the car and tried the key in the lock. It just turns without any resistance.

Any more thoughts - this is a nightmare

arjay 05-27-2019 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by arjay (Post 5950312)
Any more thoughts - this is a nightmare

Well - who says the age of miracles is dead.? No way - at least miracles with a small "m" :grin2:

I have finally got the car open. Not sure how I did it as I tried every conceivable combination of fob button presses, duration of presses and also battery connected and disconnected. Finally, I was able to open the doors with the key in the drivers door lock.

So now I can disarm the immobiliser, start the car and presumably drive it. Unfortunately, pressing the top button still does not operate the central locking system (CDL?). All it does is sound the alarm three times. Same goes for opening the doors - more three time alarms. Do I still have to go through the PIN number sync - seems quite a rigmarole when the key does actually already do everything it should except move the door buttons up and down and allow the doors to open and close without the alarm sounding?

BTW I can push the door buttons down and up manually though they feel pretty stiff. Maybe you are not supposed to do that. Anyway, at the moment both are in the up position but the alarm doesn't think they are in the open :frown2:

Can anyone help now that I can at least get the car open? For example, is the CDL fused and should I be checking that?

arjay 05-30-2019 12:58 PM

Sorry Bump - anyone?

4ramin 05-30-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by arjay (Post 5951666)
Sorry Bump - anyone?

This happened to me and as a result, I removed the factory alarm and installed a Clifford system. to unlock the car I used a long shoelace and tied a knot but not fully leave the know open by a couple of inches. slide the string through the window seal where one end is on the top and the other on the bottom. center the door pin in the middle of the know and pull to close. once closed pull the string up to pull the pin up. took me a few tries but got the door open. BTW make sure the key is also in the unlock position.

arjay 05-30-2019 09:53 PM

Thanks so much for replying. Just to let you know - I have got into the car OK now. I can start the car because the middle button on the fob will disarm the immobiliser as it should. But pressing the top button does not lock or unlock the car. It just sets off the alarm with three flashes of the lights and three loud sounds..

I have tried having the car locked and unlocked via the key in the actual locks, disconnecting the battery, and everything else I can think of.

I have found a 4 figure number on the spare key that might be the sync PIN. But I am not sure if this is correct as I understand that syncing the key means turning the ignition on and off a number of times according to each number. What do you do for a zero? Also, if the key will disarm the alarm & immobiliser to start the car - does this not mean that the key is synced correctly?

I really do not know where to go from here....

ManuelG1986 05-31-2019 01:20 AM

You should not post your sync PIN on the forum as it is the code to disarm the immobilizer.. :D

arjay 05-31-2019 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ManuelG1986 (Post 5951796)
You should not post your sync PIN on the forum as it is the code to disarm the immobilizer.. :D


Ah - good point. Thanks for the tip. My previous post now edited. My general question still stands - would it be likely that the PIN would contain a zero - if so how does that affect entering the code via the ignition?

exigegus 05-31-2019 07:27 AM

Your dealer can confirm the number.

I think it is correct as the immobilizer works

I am thinking the central door lock module may be defective, it happens.

does it work from the console switch?

I think the relative rarity of the 08+ cars limits responses, prior years have 2 button remotes and so we are not sure how to advise

arjay 05-31-2019 08:50 AM

Hi - bit peculiar. Thought I had replied but don't see it in the thread. Anyway - yes, the low numbers with this key may be a problem

So, OK, the switch does activate the CDL - locking and unlocking the doors. The door buttons go up and down perfectly (embarrassed to say I never knew there was such a switch - even though I have actually had the console out to refit the hazard warning switch).

However, after locking and unlocking a couple of times from inside the car, I still cannot lock the car from the outside using the top button on the fob as it just sets off the alarm as per previous posts - three "beeps and light flashes".

Am I any nearer now?

David Craig 05-31-2019 12:56 PM

On my 2009 Elise the top button (Lotus logo) locks the car. The middle button unlocks it. The third button I never use but I think it is a panic button.

I have had occasional glitches in which the top button would not lock the car. It turned out that I was parked in some location that had some interference.

If it is that, try driving somewhere else and testing again. Also hold the key near the front of the car. On US/Canadian cars it works best on the passenger side.

You might also try replacing the key FOB battery. It might be low and the FOB is misbehaving.

Buena suerte

arjay 05-31-2019 01:07 PM

David - thanks for your thoughts. You obviously have the same key as me. In this case the middle button disarms the alarms and immobiliser but does not unlock the doors. The door buttons just stay up or down depending on where they were when I pressed the middle button. The top button, which is supposed to lock the doors, just sets off the alarm for three blips. However, the CDL switch on the centre console locks and unlocks the doors just fine. I have a second key which behaves in exactly the same way.

But, both keys are 2-3 years old and may both need new batteries. I will try swapping them out and see what happens.

PS The distance from the car might be significant but in this case I am in a garage and only 2-3 feet away from the front of the car - where the key always used to work OK.

Cheers

Richard


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