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post #21 of 26 (permalink) Old 04-13-2017, 02:45 PM
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One of the issues currently holding me back with the V6 is the Bosch abs system which came stock. It was not designed/programmed by Lotus for use with slicks but rather R-compounds. As a result, the abs is too intrusive and I can not fully exploit the excellent brakes on the car.

I have spoken to several Lotus owners in the UK who have installed the Pilbeam pedal box . All seem to be happy with it [although dealing with Pilbeam is not without its problems] and use it mostly for wet weather conditions.
A couple were surprised at how close they still had to get the MC size before the pedal box became effective ...suggesting that the tuning range is not that great.
Ex Factory your car will be well sorted with regards to MC / rotor / caliper size so the pedal box would work well and give you the ability to fine tune ...but the question is will the ABS override any setting you make .
If you did away with ABS as many race cars do , then suggest the Pilbeam box would be a welcome addition.

If you go with the Bosch M4 I suggest that it will fix your problem and the pedal box will not be required. Plus you will get even better breaking with no chance of locking up and damaging expensive tyres !!
Obviously a more expensive option , but from what I have heard / experienced well worth the price of admission.

If you still feel like you need some adjustment fit a proportioning valve : https://www.apracing.com/products/ra...ng_valves.aspx
Keep in mind pedal box and P/Valve do different things ..
http://stoptech.com/technical-suppor...tioning-valves

If I recall correctly you will have the correct wheel sensors and plugs in place to run the M4 . As your OEM ABS is Bosch I am fairly certain that the M4 will plug in directly . This will be very helpful during the install and cheaper as you will not require new hubs [sensors inside ] leads / connectors etc
Before purchase I got a lot of info from Track Club in the UK [ part owned by Elise Parts ]
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They have fitted a number of kits to 2-11s / Exige 2ZZ and V6 etc .
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Thanks CPH.

If I go with the pedal-box, the stock ABS system would be removed/deactivated.

You are correct, if I go with the Bosch M4, as I understand it only some slight changes to the hydraulic line(s) (addition of a pressure sensor) and use of a "plug and play" harness is required to make the system operational.

I'm giving serious consideration to going the M4 route, albeit a more costly way to go.
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Based on the photos you have supplied the parts look exactly like the M4 , even the rotary knob is the same .
Might pay to check with Bosch to see if there is any way you can communicate with the OEM ABS so that you can make changes to the system... or that you may be able to purchase the M4 software to install .. just a thought .
I found Bosch to be very helpful .
Looks like your lines are all set up ready to go so it will be a very easy swap .
You will need to check that the OEM ABS does not report to the ECU or traction control system .
Sometimes these things are entwined more than you think.

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Man, it seems like I'm the only one that doesn't like the way this car looks. But no matter, the performance is certainly awesome, and I'm sure pure joy to drive!

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You are not alone, and that frumpy rear is lackluster at best IMHO...
Time to respond As has been said many times: "different strokes for different folks" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" -- all that aside, IMHO there is nothing frumpy about my rear end especially when compared to my old Exige. LOL

And, Andrew, perhaps if you would come visit (as we discussed on the phone) and check the car out in the flesh, you might change your mind .. my photos don't do the V6 Exige justice, your photographic prowess would.
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Time to respond As has been said many times: "different strokes for different folks" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" -- all that aside, IMHO there is nothing frumpy about my rear end especially when compared to my old Exige. LOL

And, Andrew, perhaps if you would come visit (as we discussed on the phone) and check the car out in the flesh, you might change your mind .. my photos don't do the V6 Exige justice, your photographic prowess would.
I don't think I'll ever get used to that rear end, but I'd definitely love to visit and take some pix of it in action. Maybe someday .
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When I think of Lotus I think of curves and nimbleness. I just personally feel that the essence visually was lost in translation with the noble-esque rear end on the V6. However, as you state to each their own and I'm ok with that.

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