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Thanks all for the advice! Super helpful stuff here.

After doing some thinking, I'm going to go for a ride along for my first ever track day to get a feel for it before I end up tracking my car. Love my car more than anything else I own... too much to risk anything happening to it. When I feel more comfortable, I'll re-consider tracking my car.
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I just signed up for this event. Looks like a good place to start. Contact John if you have any questions.
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Thanks all for the advice! Super helpful stuff here.

After doing some thinking, I'm going to go for a ride along for my first ever track day to get a feel for it before I end up tracking my car. Love my car more than anything else I own... too much to risk anything happening to it. When I feel more comfortable, I'll re-consider tracking my car.
Maybe start with an autocross. Near zero chance you'll hurt anything and you can still have the opportunity to grow as a driver.

Plug - if you're not already a Golden Gate Lotus Club member, then join. The club has a ton of events including a Lotus Autocross series (last event for 2017 is Nov 4th) and Lotus Track Days (2nd to last one for 2017 is next Monday 10/23 at Laguna. Sold out, but you can come out and spectate and grab a ride or two).

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I've done a few HPDEs in the past, but at the end of the month will be my first with the Elise.
One consideration I was just thinking about was fuel.

I'm going to a tiny track in the middle of no where. I'm not sure they'll have a gas station at this one, or one nearby.
We're getting 6 20 minute sessions and I have 2 5 gal gas cans, that I was going to fill with 100 octane, or maybe some mix of 93/100 octane, but I'm still not sure that's enough gas actually for 6 sessions.

Thinking of filling the tow rig with 93 at the closest gas station and just transferring gas over as needed and filling the 2 5 gal jugs with 100 octane. That should do it right?
I figure I'll be doing around 100 miles of racing, at 8-10 mpg with the Rev400 at race speed (correct me if this estimate is wrong) I'll consume 10-15 gallons pretty easily, and I need to keep the tank half full.

Just an odd thing I hadn't thought of until this thread.
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Thanks all for the advice! Super helpful stuff here.

After doing some thinking, I'm going to go for a ride along for my first ever track day to get a feel for it before I end up tracking my car. Love my car more than anything else I own... too much to risk anything happening to it. When I feel more comfortable, I'll re-consider tracking my car.
Schedule an event with HOD at Thunderhill (I suggest the 3-mile to start). Starts in the AM with car control, then track time in the PM with instruction in-car. It's a decent haul from the Bay Area, but this is the best way to pop your cherry
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When it's your turn go on track, how long does it normally take to warm up the car (oil/water) before you can go all out. I know we are supposed to wait until the fluid temps are up, oil would take the longest, but I have read somewhere that could take up to 15-20 minutes.

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When it's your turn go on track, how long does it normally take to warm up the car (oil/water) before you can go all out. I know we are supposed to wait until the fluid temps are up, oil would take the longest, but I have read somewhere that could take up to 15-20 minutes.
What I do is start the car before the driver's meeting and let it run. This helps heat soak the motor and all the fluids. After the driver's meeting, we have a Yellow warmup period on the track. This helps warmup the drive-line, tires and driver. After that, the car is usually on-track and only sets for about 20-30 minutes. After lunch, I will start the car 5 - 10 minutes early, while I'm buckling in and waiting to get back on track.

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I'm going to a tiny track in the middle of no where.
Where are you headed to? Palmer, Club Motorsports, Thompson and Canaan all have gas stations within a few miles.

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When it's your turn go on track, how long does it normally take to warm up the car (oil/water) before you can go all out. I know we are supposed to wait until the fluid temps are up, oil would take the longest, but I have read somewhere that could take up to 15-20 minutes.
The car won't let you get on the high lift cam until the water temperature is up to normal. In my car, that takes about 15 minutes at idle. Even when the water temps are up to normal, it still takes several more minutes of driving before the oil temperatures are up anywhere near normal. Remember that we have 1.8 liters trying to heat 7 qts (or more) of oil. We are over-cooled for most situations. I typically take it easy(er) in the early laps of the early sessions. Heat soak as the day goes on lessens the pre-session warm ups.
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Where are you headed to? Palmer, Club Motorsports, Thompson and Canaan all have gas stations within a few miles.
He's referring to Canaan. But good to know there's places nearby.

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Based on what a couple of engine builders said, wait 20 minutes after coolant is up to full temp before engaging cam change.

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The Lotus Club of So Cal is having a tech session for newbies followed by a track day at Streets of Willow (in November and December respectively).

IIRC, the OP is on the east coast, but for anyone on here who's in So Cal and wants to start tracking their car, it'll be a good intro.

I got an e-mail about it, but I am sure they've posted on here already.

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BTW I figured I'd piggy back off this thread as I'm preparing for my first track day as well with the Elise.
Need a judgement on this though.

I wanted to get the V2 arms installed so the car would turn in properly. It's understeering currently.Got them installed but got a chance to take look at the brake pads and there's plenty of meat left for daily use but I wanted to get the forum's opinion on if I've got enough meat on them for the 6 20 minute sessions I'm going to be doing in a week.

I've heard the Rc5's wear pretty well, but have no idea what to expect from them both in pad life and of fade resistance at the track. Input is welcome here. Track is a small 1.3 mile track that you could probably do the entire thing in third. I have a Rev400. I don't know how hard these car really are on consumables so looking for more experienced opinions.

Take a look, do I need to replace these before the event? They look thinner in person than the photos


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[QUOTE=Ls1Rx7;5596074]BTW I figured I'd piggy back off this thread as I'm preparing for my first track day as well with the Elise.
Need a judgement on this though.

Totally, that will last a while. start getting concerned when you have 3-4mm.
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Unless you're at COTA or RA you'll be fine.

Also if you REALLY want to fix the front understeer you need to machine the upright, just the V2 arms aren't enough.
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You'll be fine with that. Have fun.
BTW, with a good alignment and corner balance the car should turn in fine, although the V2's are a good addition.

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