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Which new track Hoosiers size for LSS wheels?

On my last very modded Elise I used A6 Hoosies and loved them. Now I am ready to get some slicks for my 2007 Exige S and I see Hoosier changed physical size of tires and models.

With Hoosiers new brand and sizes what size and model (A7, R6 or R7) tires are people running on 16"-17" LSS wheels? Use is for track days with 4-5 20min sessions?

Iam thinking about 205/45x16" frt 225/45x17" rear. Is this what others are running? A7, R6 or R7?

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Thanks, looking to order from tire rack this week.

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Also, is it just the R7 and A7 that are wider and the R6 same as before?

Current 2007 Exige S TOURING PACK, TRACK PACK, LSD, Aspen White, BOE Torque300, Tank,2bular muffler, Larini header/Decat, RLS Intercooler, Intercooler Vent Ducts/tubes PENSKE SINGLE-ADJUSTABLE SHOCKS, CUPdiscs-Front ULTRAdisc rear, Lotus AP 4 Pot Calipers, Fidanza lightweight flywheel, ACT HDSS Clutch......way too much to list..

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The A6 to A7 size change discussed many times already - with sizes posted etc. Might have to dig on LSS wheel fitment however. Not sure where you are finding A6s .. the 6's were dropped replaced with the 7's which changed the sizes.


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So from what I can find for the new A7's on LSS wheels this should work?

Hossier A7

205/45 16"
225/45 17"

I plan to order Monday from Tire rack and just looking to confirm this is what others are buying
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After reading many reviews and pricing out the A7 I think I am going a different direction with Hankook auto cross C71

Tire rack A7 set is about $1,200 for the set.
205/45 - 16"
225/40 - 17"

Tire rack C71 Hankook set is about $800 for the set
205/50 - 16"
225/45 - 17"

I know the A7's are better but I don't think they are $400 better for track days?

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Are you running autocross or running track days? I am in the market for track wheels/tires and have researched quite a bit. Sounds like the A tires are very sticky but will only give a few heat cycles before they are toast. Seems like most guys are seeing 15-20 heat cycles from the R tires and while a little less sticky they last longer and cost less. Since R series aren't available in LSS sizes I'm looking at an Ethos wheel set from sector 111. The savings on fewer tire replacements will offset the wheel cost in not too long.
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Are you running autocross or running track days? I am in the market for track wheels/tires and have researched quite a bit. Sounds like the A tires are very sticky but will only give a few heat cycles before they are toast. Seems like most guys are seeing 15-20 heat cycles from the R tires and while a little less sticky they last longer and cost less. Since R series aren't available in LSS sizes I'm looking at an Ethos wheel set from sector 111. The savings on fewer tire replacements will offset the wheel cost in not too long.
Iam doing track days. But I prefer auto cross tires based on never getting the R tires up to temp in our light cars for 15-20min track days. I am in Michigan and don't see the supper hot track tempetures also. Based on the A7 high cost and some reviews they heat cycle out quick I am now leaning on Hankook Z214, C71
205/50 ZR16 front, 225/45 ZR17 rear

C71's About $400 cheaper on set and reading some good reviews on the C71 also.

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Tire rack is back orderd on the Hankook c71 205/50 16" for at least a mouth nationwide.

So orderd a set of A7, will see how they do this weekend at Grattan MI

Went with,
A7
205/45x16 and 225/40x17

Current 2007 Exige S TOURING PACK, TRACK PACK, LSD, Aspen White, BOE Torque300, Tank,2bular muffler, Larini header/Decat, RLS Intercooler, Intercooler Vent Ducts/tubes PENSKE SINGLE-ADJUSTABLE SHOCKS, CUPdiscs-Front ULTRAdisc rear, Lotus AP 4 Pot Calipers, Fidanza lightweight flywheel, ACT HDSS Clutch......way too much to list..

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We've run the C71s in the past. They are sticky and work well on the Elise/Exige. Tire back orders are becoming a bigger headache on the Lotus so it seems like keeping a set of R888s mounted as back up is good insurance.

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After reading many reviews and pricing out the A7 I think I am going a different direction with Hankook auto cross C71

Tire rack A7 set is about $1,200 for the set.
205/45 - 16"
225/40 - 17"

Tire rack C71 Hankook set is about $800 for the set
205/50 - 16"
225/45 - 17"

I know the A7's are better but I don't think they are $400 better for track days?
The Hankooks are excellent tires…. very sticky and just as good as the Hoosiers. We ran that tire (as the spec tire) for Lotus Challenge/Cup for one year.

Just a heads-up: Hankook's only available size for the front 16" wheel is too tall --- a 50 series tire is not right up front…. watch out for significant rubbing on the fender liner unless you alter ride height.

Hankook has the correct front size if you run 15" front wheels.

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Hankook has the correct front size if you run 15" front wheels.

15s FTW!
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+1 for 15s. I was in a similar predicament years ago and just went with 15/16 Ethos wheels. Total, mine were ~8 lbs lighter than the 16/17 LSS.

Hankook Z214s were my choice when I tracked. Excellent bang for the buck.
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