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Cambelt service should be done every 12K miles or 18 months. You're overdue based on time, not mileage.

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Hello KM,

Thanks, I inadvertently missed it in your former post.

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Most shops that service British cars swear by Castrol GTLMA Dot 4 brake fluid. It is supposed to be the most compatible with the rubber compounds used in the seals by Girling. You will need 4-5 pints for the brakes and another 1 for the clutch. If the fluid hasn't been changed for a long time and it's really dark and gunky you might want to flush longer and with with more fresh fluid. Remove as much of the old fluid as you can from the reservoir and wipe it out with alcohol before adding fresh stuff. Be careful not to spill any on the paint, it will soften and remove the paint. Always use the freshest stuff you can get, it absorbs moisture from the air. I buy it just before I need to use it and try not to store much more than 1 pint for topping off.
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It's funny how things haven't changed. My '68 Triumph(almost new) seemed to go through a lot of clutch master rebuilds until I switched to Castrol for the same rubber seal compatability. Triumph thoughtfully located the reservoir over your shoes so you had to replace them as well -brake fluid destroys more than just paint.
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Just picked up my car from Ferrari of Denver, total for the cambelt change was ;


Cambelts and Labor $0 (1st cambelt service provided by Lotus)

2 New Tensioners - $265.02
2 New Pulleys - $259.26
1 New Serpentine Belt - $50.40

All parts sourced from JAE rather than dealer who wanted gobs more $$$$.

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Just picked up my car from Ferrari of Denver, total for the cambelt change was ;


Cambelts and Labor $0 (1st cambelt service provided by Lotus)

2 New Tensioners - $265.02
2 New Pulleys - $259.26
1 New Serpentine Belt - $50.40

All parts sourced from JAE rather than dealer who wanted gobs more $$$$.
Pulleys and tensioners for what?

For all V8 owners, one can not stress the importance of having the cambelts serviced regularly. I do my own but tell others to use the dealer as LCU covers it for the first 8 years or 80K miles. One owner never got around to it despite multiple warnings. The last email I received was asking if $13K seemed high to repair the engine. I'm guessing only one belt slipped.

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Pulleys and tensioners for what?
Not sure what you mean, Lotus recommends changing the idlers and Tensioners when the Cambelts are changed, not when the tension is checked. My tension has been checked every year but its been 4.5 years since the car went into service and Lotus will pay for the belts and labor but not for any other parts. I confirmed this while at the factory in December.

Better safe than sorry with the tensioners and idlers as if one of those sticks you will have a cambelt problem anyway.

Do it once and do it right, seen too many Esprit's where the owners cut corners on service and either they or the next owner paid for it.

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Not sure what you mean, Lotus recommends changing the idlers and Tensioners when the Cambelts are changed, not when the tension is checked. My tension has been checked every year but its been 4.5 years since the car went into service and Lotus will pay for the belts and labor but not for any other parts. I confirmed this while at the factory in December.

Better safe than sorry with the tensioners and idlers as if one of those sticks you will have a cambelt problem anyway.

Do it once and do it right, seen too many Esprit's where the owners cut corners on service and either they or the next owner paid for it.
That's odd... last I checked, LCU covered belts and tensioners for the complimentary belt replacement. I elected not to have the dealer ever touch my car again after they did some damage and then did even more damage when they attempted to repair their initial damage. So in short, my Esprit has only had cambelt services done by me since the initial tension adjustment. Plus, the local dealer had one factory trained mechanic and he left... so zero trained mechanics on the Esprit, i.e., very high risk.

As for dealers and prices... seems they are on their own to charge whatever they want. My local dealer is obscene on parts prices. They wanted over $200 for a pair axle shaft seals and pins... the dealer I use on the west coast was less than $80 for the exact same parts. Jeff at JAE is a very good and knowledgeable source however. Symbolic is also a good source for Lotus parts without the excessive price gouging.

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In most of the cases that I know of LCU only covered the belts and labor. The tensioners were NOT covered but I suppose it can be up to the individual case. It is not necessary to replace the tensioners at every belt change. It can't hurt of course, but you should be able to do the tensioners every other change or even more and not push the limit. The belt has a much shorter life expectancy than the tensioners.
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Any premium national brand anti-freeze is good. I prefer Prestone. Mix 50/50 with soft water. I also suggest you take the header bottle apart and clean it out and make sure the low coolant level sensor is not gunked up and will work. Also check the hose from the header to overflow bottle. Some owners have had success using a tuning program called "Tune-IT". It requires a good microphone. Not many of us have or will spend for a Clavis gauge. Take your time and let us know how it turns out! For 8kredracer, you should get the manual and do an "A" service, at the very least you are supposed to change the brake and clutch fluid EVERY YEAR.
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Just completed the service on my Esprit V8. The cam belts took about 6 hours to replace. This was my first time doing the belt service. It will be faster next time. I wanted to double and triple check everything before starting it. The clevis gage worked great, as did all the tools I made. Thanks for all the things to look out for when changing the coolant. I found the level switch was not working and the overflow hose had a hole in it. Needless to say I found a lot wrong with who ever serviced it last. Again thanks for all you help and encouragement.

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