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My LSJ project is nearing completion (4 cylinder supercharged Ecotec 2.0L engine) and expect it will be around 300 hp and 260 ft lbs



Hey Dean, you should post (in a separate thread) the progress of the '86. It's been a while.

IIRC you already cyro'd many of your gearbox components?

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[QUOTE=MRDANGERUS;5255474]Update:



The total cost is $1800/set.
In addition to this:
Cryogenic Tempering is $150
My shipping to you (US and territories) $25

Mr Dangerous, I'm new around here but i'm continually stunned by your knowledge of things mechanical! Is your back round engineering?

I probably missed it but is there a minimum # of orders needed for crown wheel and pinion sets? The reason i'm asking is because I would really like to get in on it, but I can't right now for the finances, hopefully soon! How many have committed up to now?
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Mr Green,

Yes, you guessed right.

Thus far, I have 6 people interested. I'd like to get 20 or more.

Price is higher than the "regular" SM/DS CWP, but the difference is in strength and materials.
New design had one main objective: to make parts indestructible. Cost was a secondary concern.
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Group Buy Update:

Design has been finalized and roll-tested.
New, bespoke tooling is required for these parts.

Can not start tooling without a firm commitment.

Thus, I'm starting to accept deposits of $206/set ( $6 is for payPal fees, unless you're sending it via a "family" option)
Please, send the down payment to my PayPal at [email protected] (NOTE: there is no O in dangerUS!)

We need a minimum of 15 orders.

Time for action!
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Hi, before you go on, I would like to share that I am about to order a new batch of 50 -100 ring and pinion sets for Citroen SM. ( Same as for Lotus Esprit. Much stronger than original.
This info is from manufacturer.

Hi Harry.
We will use FORGED material ,the same we used for lancia delta group A.
We will make Hpg-s grinding , wich improves the pattern.
Parts will be klingelnberg , it means comparing a gleason bevel gear with same size and module the klingelnberg is 30% stronger.
With 50 euro more i can make a coating anti friction.


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Harry,

Thanks for supporting all the users of the Citroen transmission for many years!

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We will use FORGED material ,the same we used for lancia delta group A.
We will make Hpg-s grinding , wich improves the pattern.
Parts will be klingelnberg , it means comparing a gleason bevel gear with same size and module the klingelnberg is 30% stronger.
With 50 euro more i can make a coating anti friction.

Is the anti-friction coating worthwhile? Wouldn't it wear off in a few thousand miles?

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[QUOTE=dsvitesse1;5386418]Hi, before you go on, I would like to share that I am about to order a new batch of 50 -100 ring and pinion sets for Citroen SM. ( Same as for Lotus Esprit. Much stronger than original.
This info is from manufacturer.

What is the total cost on these USD
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I assume, Harry's being for made the SM, they will still drive on the coasting side of the tooth in the Esprit?

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Harry,

Thanks for supporting all the users of the Citroen transmission for many years!




Is the anti-friction coating worthwhile? Wouldn't it wear off in a few thousand miles?
This coating is superfinish .
It is to avoid the usury of parts .
You have more chance to avoid pitting.
Superfinish is not a coating like a print, it is a procedure that does not wear .


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I assume, Harry's these being for made the SM, they will still drive on the coasting side of the tooth in the Esprit?
Correct. But stronger cwp.
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Hi, price will be around 1,5K euro.


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So about $1,650 USD. (Plus the wild world of shipping rates and variable customs penalties)

What tooth ratio would these be?

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So about $1,650 USD. (Plus the wild world of shipping rates and variable customs penalties)

What tooth ratio would these be?
OEM. 8/35. 1:4.375


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MRdangerus- I just sent you a email. Sorry I didn't see your post on here earlier!
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OK, I'll take a chance on this getting off the ground @ $1800 a set. Sent a deposit today.
If I spend a chunk on a spare, the original should outlast me, right?

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Initiative is still going strong. No change in the direction/intent of the project!

List for the "Indestructible CWP" is still open!

Small price to pay, knowing that even if you replace your CWP with "new used" Citroen DS parts, the fix is only delaying the inevitable failure.

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Thanks for persisting, The G car will never be as fast as it looks with transaxle worries behind the driver!
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