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post #61 of 1138 (permalink) Old 11-16-2015, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
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Couldn't help but make the offer, once I discovered you had never driven one!

It was my way of providing an INCENTIVE to get Penelope back in shape! (I think it worked, too.)
Your busted,, I just new it,, you are always thinking. For that I am glad and yes it did work. Working on a power bleeder for the brakes at this time. I have to call and order a new choke cable straight away.I think I will open the light motors before buying a bunch of relays. I know I saw a step by step way to test the relays to see if they are working. I have to find that again. That was some time ago when I first got her and headlights were not on my mind at all.
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Atwell gave me incentive to grow a mustache. Sadly, it will never be as epic as his, but I sure can try.
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Hey Jenna,
How did you know the drivetrain was 100% if it wasn't
running when you bought it? How many miles are on
the car ?
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Hey Jenna,
How did you know the drivetrain was 100% if it wasn't
running when you bought it? How many miles are on
the car ?
I didn't when I bought it. It was a huge risk and the price was right. Only now I know that the drive train is in good condition. I had nightmares of a bad engine or a worn out trans. The car if the odometer is right has 22638 miles on it. The car still needs a lot of smaller items to deal with now but nothing as costly as a motor or trans rebuild.
I went on my gut hunch and the guy I bought it from has a good track record. I am not normally a gambler. I just had a good feeling about the car.
Bottom line it was a risk not taken lightly and I was willing to deal with the consequences if it was a problem.

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Jenna,

Are you familiar with the input shaft circlip issue on the Citroen transmissions? If not, I highly recommend looking into it. What can happen is that the circlip used to hold the input shaft in place is inadequate, and it can wear out, which causes the shaft to lunch on the crank shaft.

Mine came loose, but I got lucky, and it "only" cost a few grand to repair, as opposed to a lot of grand if the crank had gotten messed up.

Not trying to panic you or anything, just letting you know there is an important matter with the G-car transmissions to look into.

If your year of Esprit is affected by the issue, I would suggest pulling the transmission and replacing the circlip. A replacement circlip is quite cheap; but the labor is somewhat involved.

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Damn Mike aren't you the bearer of Sunshine today, Lol. Probably when I do the clutch. I have a new one sitting on the shelf. Thank for the heads up
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I just try to let people know so it doesn't happen to them. Ask Atwell about his sometime
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Not to threadjack, but this is a serious concern.
Does the circlip issue affect all
S3's ( 1980-1986 ) ? Wonder how many of these are
slowly grinding away on the crankshafts ? Does replacing
the circlip require an engine pull ? Should replacing it
be part of regular maintenance ? How often ( every ? miles ).
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Citroen-equipped Turbo Esprit and Esprit Turbo (80- 88 USA) are impacted. Not the Renault-equipped Esprits or non-Turbo models.

Here's my thread where I addressed this:

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f164...strike-200137/
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Any ideas on how much it would cost to pay an independent
mechanic to replace the circlip ? I definitely wouldn't want
someone doing this for the first time....this is careful work.
I'm almost scared away from the 1980-1988s now. This
is major work: opening up transmission, turbo removal, etc.
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Don't be scared away from the cars by this. It is a known issue, with a known, and well documented, permanent fix. Just anticipate the cost when considering your budget for purchasing a car.

It is a little bit more labor than just a clutch job, so depending on your area's going rate for qualified mechanics, I wouldn't imagine more then $2k-$3k to pull the transmission, replace the circlip, and replace all of the clutch related components.

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Just to be clear,


Transmission disassembly is not required just to replace the input shaft circlip with the heavy-duty one. You just separate the engine and trans to install it.

That said, Jenna's car has the older two-drain-plug Citroen trans, so it probably doesn't have the shouldered input shaft that allows the shaft to move forward and grind into the crank.

My car has one of those now. And, it has the Renault style ball bearing on the engine side.


I'd say that it needs to be done at around 40 - 50K miles. And, YMMV.
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Breathes easier,
So today's update,
Penelope has her new kitty tags front and rear as required by NJ motor Vehicle Code. They are however temporary until her personal tags come in the mail. I am thinking of making bets on guesses of the name on her tags. I am about to feed the cats and return to putting the new vapor hose on as the kindly UPS driver left me a parcel at the door. So its a work night yet,,, Pictures to follow in the morning

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One more thing while I am at it,, Gallagher was the name of one of her previous owner,, I know we have our own special one here,, anybody got info about this guy. I would love to add it to the registry. The car hailed from Minnesota since it was new. There has to be history there. It appears I am the second owner if the previous title is correct. The last of the vin is 357 There was two names on the old title,, the younger one lives in Maryland now so it appears she was a gift at one point or some such thing.


Small world about to get smaller I hope

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I am thinking of making bets on guesses of the name on her tags.
I'm going with "MUN-E-PIT"

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Am unfamiliar with Esprits. Jenna wants to use silicone brake fluid and I've heard that this is not good with British seals and components.

Could one of you opine about that, pls?

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I'm going with "MUN-E-PIT"
True story,, but nope
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Okay so we are allowed 7 spaces on a License plate in New Jersey. I put in my request for the new tags today.
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#1 PENLOPE
#2 PENELOP I would put a capital E in Black vinyl at leaning back45 degree angle outside to the right of the plate.
#3 UB40-UK
#4 PITSTOP

So who can tell me the significance of the third one other then it was a British Band back when Penelope was new. Clue, owning a Lotus may require you need this if you haven't planned well for the future and you don't want to loose your Esprit.

Somebody please play the Jeopardy music till we get an answer

Be back later with a status report after wrestling with more vapor house tonight.
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#1 PENLOPE
#2 PENELOP I would put a capital E in Black vinyl at leaning back45 degree angle outside to the right of the plate.
#3 UB40-UK
#4 PITSTOP


Perfect for you, Jenna:

PNLOP (on the Animal Friendly plates with the characters drawn by MUTTS creator Patrick McDonnell, at the link below)

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It's been a long time since I've applied for vanity plates. Is NJ still so Stone Age that they can't tell you what is taken already?

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Yupper they are just about to find out the world is round

to late,, the app is in already,, no one is biting on UB40-UK hahahahaha

Red Red Wine,, first time I heard that was in Saint Thomas VI to a reggae band

More clues the car color, UK must be, must be....
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