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post #121 of 1182 (permalink) Old 11-23-2015, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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So true, but they are worth the effort to preserve them for the enjoyment that comes from driving them.
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So true, but they are worth the effort to preserve them for the enjoyment that comes from driving them.
I couldn't agree more. When I went for a drive with our local "super car squad", we all took turns driving each other's cars. As impressive as the GT3 and the V8 were, something about my I4 just resonates with me.

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Sunday feeling a head cold coming on but I just had to get out and do a drive about. So as my sinus head cold whines down I will be back at it. I will change out the sacrificial fuel filter tomorrow to see how much debris I caught. The second throw away is clear so this will be an easier task next time. Then some rest to get to feel good enough to think straight again,, if that was ever possible

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Hope you're feeling better soon.

When sitting behind the wheel, does the instrument
cluster/pod get in the way much of seeing straight ahead through
the windshield ? I've read that it does for some people.
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Naaaa,, not bad if your not to short I am 5' 7"

But it wouldn't matter,, I keep my eyes closed when it gets a bit hairy

serious note ,, know the car,, feel it. You are in a capsule. Knowing where you are and the size of the car in relation and your limitations of range have to become part of you. An innate seventh sense if you will

When I got my first sports car I pushed it to the limits on back winding roads to make a communion with the car,, oops back tire is off the road on that turn,, less brake, check speed more fuel in that one. Those lessons with friends doing the same taught me well. Occasion backwards off the road in the woods meant try harder next time. I think time trialing with in the SCCA help enormously also. I won't push Penelope like that often but I do want that feeling of one with her when it happens.
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Hope you're feeling better soon.

When sitting behind the wheel, does the instrument
cluster/pod get in the way much of seeing straight ahead through
the windshield ? I've read that it does for some people.
Are you in New York state? If you are, you are more than welcome to come check out my car to get a feel for a G-car era Lotus. Mine is well maintained and in good condition, so it is very representative of what the cars can do when sorted.
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Update,
I changed the sacrificial primary fuel filter tonight to get an idea of how really bad the fuel tanks might be. After cutting the filter open I found muddie rust powder. I think three of four filter changes will probably clean that up,, maybe a few more. The good news was there were no big flakes which I was worried about. I will keep the fuel tanks full and do some local driving until I get a cleaner change out. I DO NOT WANT TO PULL THOSE TANKS!!
I also have a leak at the front of the engine that I thought might be the front main crankshaft seal. But that all looks good. I will have to go back up top with a mirror and start exploring again. Anybody have one of these leaks to point me in the right direction. What is a British car without some leaks. I think that is a sign of all is well in the world, or at least in my garage. Some where in the middle of all this Lotus stuff my son's Honda Coupe started acting up with those I might start I might not kind of issues. So I have done some research and changed out the main relay in the car which they say sometimes causes this random piss you off leaving you stranded thingy. I've been driving it daily now and haven't been able to get "stuck yet". Time will tell I guess. It sure got in the way of driving Penelope,, Maybe tomorrow to top off the fuel tanks. I am pretty much sidelined because of my head cold and family n friends coming home for TG to get any Penelope quality time until Sunday.
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Thanks delomike....generous offer.
Unfortunately I'm in no-Lotus land...Oklahoma.

I'm not sure anyone in the state of Oklahoma
owns a Lotus. This makes it hard to research
how they run and how they handle. And working
full time doesn't permit much travel time to go look
at cars far away.

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Bits and pieces update.
I thought I had lost some pictures while deleting some off my phone and I was wrong. Found a couple from when I changed the hoses, so I will post them today. I got a good laugh too, when I saw the picture of the fuel pump mounting bracket. It happen to be under somethings in the back of the car when I got home hidden there. The car had a new pump temporally wired tied in place when I got the car. I asked all over about a mounting bracket and no one could get one. A lil cleaning up and there it was sitting there staring me in the face. I felt a little silly. I had even asked the guy I bought the car from if he had seen it and he said no. It appears the fuel filter might have been the original filter from the factory that came with the car. Its just a hunch but it sure leads to some thinking about her history.That seems like a long time ago but it was really quite recent considering I have only had Penelope a couple months now. My family members and friends left this afternoon and I got a ride about in for 20 minutes or so. I changed the primary fuel filter again today and things appear to finally be clearing up a bit. I will drive her again tomorrow and shake up the fuel a bit and remove the filter and see what it looks like inside. It may be time to just run with only the normal Bosch filter that came with the car when new. I think that will help remove that fuel starve issue I encounter when going up a steeper grade here with some boost in there. Looking at the crossover fuel tube pictures today that I removed really gave me a renewed feeling of how bad the fuel lines were and how others really need to pay attention to them. The car is just loaded with more of them then I would ever conceive. I also got another look at the right hand fuel tank line that ran up to the pressure regulator. Scary stuff really.
Tomorrow after I get a ride in without the extra filter restriction I will see how she pulls a hill under boost conditions and decide whether to open up the fuel pressure regulator and see what kind of shape it is. I cant but feel its a lil suspect since everything else is new now. Then I will begin the systematic search for the ground problem related to my cooling fans, light pod function and horns. That means Penelope gets up in the air again for inspection/ trouble shooting until this is all resolved. Then its on to addressing some light oil drips here and there. I notice the transmission drain plug seal needs to be replaced. It was a tad bit wet today when I greased the speedometer cable drive unit. Nothing big and I think it can wait a bit to be replaced, maybe a bit more tightening will do the trick.
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Holy crap, those hoses are BAD. Mine crossover hoses are original, but look perfectly fine.

Regardless, I am changing them in the spring, along with any other original rubber that I can find.
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Good idea cheap repair considering replacing the car
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Holy crap, those hoses are BAD. Mine crossover hoses are original, but look perfectly fine.

Regardless, I am changing them in the spring, along with any other original rubber that I can find.
Silicone crossover hoses from JAE are nice by the way
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Never got my drive about in this morning as I had some other business to see to and then came home to the rain, In a word (DRATS)

So before dinner Penelope made like Back To The Future and is up in the air again without no stinking Flux Capacitor.
So I started the find the reason my horns, fans and headlights wont go up with the pods when the lights are turned on. New fuse in the fuse box it was time to start digging. I started looking for pinched wires up near the relay cluster near the left headlight pod. I wasn't excited about sliding about on the creeper getting my hair stuck under the wheels again so I avoided it for as long as I could. Everything looked good but I did find the pod light wiring trapped and lifted on the motor to free it up. Then I headed down under ( Not Australia ), No Men at Work music in the background. Just drop lights and a multi-meter. The two left side and center fans for the radiator looked good and I unplugged the power to them. Dirty connections and ground a bit of corrosion but all in all they looked good,, so did all three motor grounds. Tested the grounds all around for continuity and all three and all was good including to the motor to main frame. The right side fan connection was covered in what looked like grease. Slid back out and got a can of spray greaser and had at all three motor connections. Surprise all three connection at the motor are white once the dirt was removed. The right side connection ( the last picture in this series ) was definitely a problem, It showed signs of being overheated to the melting phase. Okay,, lets not plug that one back together anytime soon. My first pawn in finding the problem. I cleaned up the connections and will finish them up tomorrow and move back further toward the fuse box. While things weren't hooked up on the fan lets see if we can blow the fuse. Back to the switch on the steering column and try the horns. Beep they work and the head light pods come up and flash. I tried the pod light flash about ten times,, no blown fuse. Good news. The head light switch in the dash left side wont put the pods up but does turn on all the lights in the car. Good news we are getting closer. I need to look into the switch and the wiring between now.
I took some pictures and called it a night. I have to look into repairing the right fan motor or repairing it.
I included the infamous missing T vapor line picture tonight also that doesn't appear on the engine hatch schematic. The other pictures are the fan plugs and the damaged/ cooked right fan connection. I will probably remove that motor and bench test it.

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great progress Jenna.
Are there any fuel smells in the
cabin of the car now ? I drove
a 89 model a few days ago that
had a strong, aged fuel smell
even though there was fresh gas
in the car. Is it possible to even
see the bottoms of those fuel
tanks ? The carpet material they
set on gets wet, then starts to
rust the bottom of the tanks.
Tanks would have been better off
without that material.
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great progress Jenna.
Are there any fuel smells in the
cabin of the car now ? I drove
a 89 model a few days ago that
had a strong, aged fuel smell
even though there was fresh gas
in the car. Is it possible to even
see the bottoms of those fuel
tanks ? The carpet material they
set on gets wet, then starts to
rust the bottom of the tanks.
Tanks would have been better off
without that material.
From what I can see of them from the top and bottom they were fine. I have no fuel smell in the cabin. It does smell like any British car does for some reason. My daughter got in it and she said it smelled like my TR^. She has not been in that car in at least ten years. It must be the materials they use to do the inside aging. The car on Ebay up in Stroudsburg Pa. looks like a nice car but it really should be looked at by someone. Maybe if a member wants to go look at it I could go with them. We aren't to awful far from there. I think there are some folks right in that area also. But It really would have to be someone with a cash in hand type of sale.
The fuel smell could be the vapor lines by the way.

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It does smell like any British car does for some reason. My daughter got in it and she said it smelled like my TR6.
I'm sure all she noticed was the odor of the owner's sweat baking off the exhaust.


OTOH, I just did an oil change on my wife's DD and (as usual) spattered some oil on the muffler. She says her minivan smells like a Lotus now!


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I'm sure all she noticed was the odor of the owner's sweat baking off the exhaust.


OTOH, I just did an oil change on my wife's DD and (as usual) spattered some oil on the muffler. She says her minivan smells like a Lotus now!

Ha,,You sure thats not silicone brake fluid???
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I had breakfast and sat down after a pot of coffee and started going through wiring diagrams of the front end of my car. Specifically the head light motors. I started tracing lines with my finger at the head light flash and horn. Yes they all makes sense and I know for sure they are working correctly. Then I spent some time looking at the headlight motor wiring system and routing. There it was looking back right at me. The headlight motors are routed through the flasher for some who knows what they were thinking? The flasher and hazard flashers relays are not in my car, they are missing and need to be replaced. Somehow this sounded easy enough. I retraced all three connections and their links on the schematic. Yup, it appears the fan issue is separate from the light pod motors. Hopefully this takes care of the problem once I install the new one. It appears someone was (borrowing) some parts off the car as the knobs for the temp controls were missing also. The pieces of the puzzle are starting to snap into place just nicely. I hope this ease of repairs continues. Has anyone repaired a fan motor plug? Today I am pulling the right side motor out and bench testing it and then opening it up to see if it can be salvaged.
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The lads over across the pond figured out the Personalized plate option #4 that I had as a mind teaser,, UB40-UK

Page copy below from Lotus Forms answered correctly by Barry. Red Red Wine,,,,


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1 hour ago, Barrykearley said:
Ub40 was a book or form you had back in the day if you were workshy.

now they just seem to throw money at you - unless you are hardworking - then you get nowt.

love a bit of irony

Correct,, It was those unemployment benefits form. You can now brag with complete pride. Folks this side of the pond had to know the history of the band UB40 as to how the band got its name. This also meant you had to be a uber fan to spend that much time looking into their history,, Red Red Wine,,,,, Well done Barry

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I'm not sure anyone in the state of Oklahoma owns a Lotus.
I see only one Lotus Ltd member in OK. Pretty slim pickings.
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