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Gyah, this thread is making me want to work on my car so badly. But it is already in storage, and it is definitely getting to be too cold to work on cars right now.

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Okay I need you all to get busy and find me two of a C082M6219F flasher unit. It turns out after some more investigation I only have one unit that combines all functions. That my friends is poor design judgement. Keep it all the same till you have a problem then you have a lot of stuff that wont work. One for the shelf and one for the car please. Mike you have time your car is in storage already. That's a bummer on those really warm days when you get the itch to do a drive about. (makes note to self, Never store the car for the winter )
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If the rest of the fan motor could be salvaged, you might be able to replace the connectors with one of these out the back of the motor:

Quick Disconnect Wire Harness 2 Pin SAE Connector 12 Gauge PC120 | eBay

Most of the parts store stock seems to be 16 or 18 ga wire
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Okay I need you all to get busy and find me two of a C082M6219F flasher unit. It turns out after some more investigation I only have one unit that combines all functions. That my friends is poor design judgement. Keep it all the same till you have a problem then you have a lot of stuff that wont work. One for the shelf and one for the car please. Mike you have time your car is in storage already. That's a bummer on those really warm days when you get the itch to do a drive about. (makes note to self, Never store the car for the winter )
Is this it? In Italy:
http:// http://www.lotuswebstore.it/...tag=C082M6219F

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Great find thanx. I could check my wire gauge
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Try this

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The picture is for an M100 Elan, though

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I show the flasher unit for pre-'88 cars as A079M6018F. C082M6219F was used on US cars from '88 on. Jenna, is yours transparent blue with four terminals, or round with three?

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The picture is for an M100 Elan, though
Thank you. That is the link that I found. I was wondering about the Elan USA reference but the part number matched.

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I show the flasher unit for pre-'88 cars as A079M6018F. C082M6219F was used on US cars from '88 on. Jenna, is yours transparent blue with four terminals, or round with three?
Damn another monkey wrench. Mine is missing from the car. Not sure what I had at this point
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Are we flashing the indicators, the hazards or the high beams with the missing flasher?

Later post mentioned the headlights, the flash relay for that looks to be a B079M6141F, a plain 5 blade 40A changeover relay in the block in the left front trunk.

If we're talking turn/hazard, my 1985 G-car has a Hella 4 blade flasher unit marked "Electronic 12V" on the side (although it has a coil & contacts inside, so should be "electro-mechanical").
Top markings are HELLA TB 64 and the numbers 4DM003360-00 and (4DM004420-04) and @71424. This unit would be plugged into a red socket (upper right) next to the fusebox at drivers left.

VW Audi Skoda Seat Flasher Unit Indicator Relay Hella 4DM003360 00 | eBay

I'm guessing the Hella would be a bit generic or cross referenceable

YMMV, not sure how things changed over the years....

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Are we flashing the indicators, the hazards or the high beams with the missing flasher?

Later post mentioned the headlights, the flash relay for that looks to be a B079M6141F, a plain 5 blade 40A changeover relay in the block in the left front trunk.

If we're talking turn/hazard, my 1985 G-car has a Hella 4 blade flasher unit marked "Electronic 12V" on the side (although it has a coil & contacts inside, so should be "electro-mechanical").
Top markings are HELLA TB 64 and the numbers 4DM003360-00 and (4DM004420-04) and @71424. This unit would be plugged into a red socket (upper right) next to the fusebox at drivers left.

VW Audi Skoda Seat Flasher Unit Indicator Relay Hella 4DM003360 00 | eBay

I'm guessing the Hella would be a bit generic or cross referenceable

YMMV, not sure how things changed over the years....
Thank you more numbers yet still,, He did agree its a Hella (short for hellofva mess I am in lol

I called JAE and talked with Jay,, He is shipping the right one for the car and it will be here Thursday Hopefully that straightens everything out finally..
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Anybody ever bench test these headlight pod motors. I have two leads coming out of the motor and it is grounded to the frame. How do you energize this thing. I cant seem to get it to turn on.
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After you replaced the fuses a week ago, the pod motors worked didn't they? So you know the motors are good.

One lead is UP the other DOWN on the older motors. There are diodes involved to, if that ain't ELECTRONIC I don't know what is!

Just don't blow the horn again! (That's what fried the fuses again, right?) Should have gotten plates saying MOOV OVR.

I thought I sent you some bits of Section MC showing the circuits.

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If we're talking indicators, I hope the issue is not in the Hazard switch, mine had a broken rocker that I had to whittle a replacement for. Another two systems through the same component deal.

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After you replaced the fuses a week ago, the pod motors worked didn't they? So you know the motors are good.

One lead is UP the other DOWN on the older motors. There are diodes involved to, if that ain't ELECTRONIC I don't know what is!

Just don't blow the horn again! (That's what fried the fuses again, right?) Should have gotten plates saying MOOV OVR.

I thought I sent you some bits of Section MC showing the circuits.
Yes the pods go up when you flash the headlights and the horn works fine now. The relays ( 6 under the front cover and 4 near the coil all test good. No hazards, no headlights when turn on well they look straight down om and no directionals, and the big one,, no flasher unit next to the fuses. I think that problem will be solved on Thursday when the flasher gets here from JAE,,
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If we're talking indicators, I hope the issue is not in the Hazard switch, mine had a broken rocker that I had to whittle a replacement for. Another two systems through the same component deal.
Did you whittle out of Chapmans ass bone or Lucas Head Engineers skull? Inquiring minds want to know this stuff. Don't say wood that is a fire hazard,, No campfires in the dashboard please
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If we're talking indicators, I hope the issue is not in the Hazard switch, mine had a broken rocker that I had to whittle a replacement for. Another two systems through the same component deal.
I want to see pictures if a BRG Turbo Esprit,,, that's something special for sure
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