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Sunroof S4s

I'm the 4th owner of my S4s. This one did not come with a sunroof.
Just asking is it worth my time and $$ purchasing a sunroof? I understand it's not a straight change going from the hard to glass top.
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I'm the 4th owner of my S4s. This one did not come with a sunroof.
Just asking is it worth my time and $$ purchasing a sunroof? I understand it's not a straight change going from the hard to glass top.
It is a straight swap on your later model, all V8 roofs are a direct fit, your challenge is finding one as they rarely come up for sale and when they do itís north of $1200. The seals are also slightly thicker on the glass roof, but they are available aftermarket.

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When you speak with Steve at SJ Sportscars, he says it's a pretty big deal going from the composite panel to glass. He has all the parts and pieces along with the glass panel ($795) for sale.
I seem to remember when I had an 89 esprit it was really easy going from one to the other.
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The sunroof makes the cabin feel a little bit larger but it makes it a lot warmer because of the greenhouse effect from the sun. You will need the thicker (taller) seal to stop the wind noise. You also need the bag to keep it in to keep it from getting scratched up. They come up from time to time for sale. Often from owners who have sold their car and want to squeeze a bit more money out of it.
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You live in San Diego....so you won't regret a sun roof....at least that's the opinion of an owner with one in Florida.....not interested in finding a solid roof
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I'll most likely think about this one. Being in sunny So Cal I'd probably not use it much.
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The sunroof makes the cabin feel a little bit larger but it makes it a lot warmer because of the greenhouse effect from the sun. You will need the thicker (taller) seal to stop the wind noise. You also need the bag to keep it in to keep it from getting scratched up. They come up from time to time for sale. Often from owners who have sold their car and want to squeeze a bit more money out of it.

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Replacing the seal is not mandatory. It really just depends on the condition of the OEM seal on your car. I have been running the glass roof with the OEM seal on my S4s for 15 years now and have no water issues or cabin noise.

Whenever not in use... I mostly leave the sunroof popped open or just donít clamp down the roof compressing the seal. Since you are the 4th owner... The likelihood of replacing the seal is probable if you go to the glass roof.

The glass roofs are a bit hard to come by... if you can acquire one... jump on it. I havenít used my painted roof since I switched over.

Also another bit of misconception is the glass roof allowing more heat in the cabin. Under normal conditions.... yes. BUT... if you bring the glass roof to your local tint shop and have him install ceramic tint with a high heat rejection, you will have zero issues. Various tint manufacturers make the ceramic tint in various tint levels, from dark limo tint all the way up to 90% clear. The other benefit of ceramic tint is that it allows for clear transmission of LTE, WiFi and Bluetooth devices.

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Most appreciative for your advice. As I said previously SJ Sportscars do have a glass sunroof. But will keep my eyes open for one here also.
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I have one but 'life' being what it is, is still sitting unused in my spare bedroom since 2015 (!).
Since I have a 87 now, I verified the Stevens glass roof is not interchangeable for Giugiaro Esprit.

I tried to sell it locally (too many horror stories of broken glass roofs being shipped) and of course my $1500 asking price a bit steep.

When 'life' subsides a bit, I will be more serious about selling it at a more competitive price.
But shipping in breakage-proof container will add $$$ just for shipping alone.

I sold a composite top to Dave C in Florida - box was much less rigorous - arrived fine, but it was $60 to ship from CA to FLA.
Guessing a glass top with adequate padding/etc would be twice that.

And in sunny and hot San Jose, the glass top is fine - this one is dark-tinted (not the light-tinted ones you might run across).
Yes it does get hot to the touch, but that's why the car has AC. Your AC IS working, correct? :-)

Forgot to mention - I have the taller seal from SJS (never installed because I put foam on the glass itself to work with existing composite top).
The factory vinyl bag is also included.

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Go ahead replace the seal along with the new glass top if you get it......if you get it. Repeat ....you live in San Diego.....maybe now you get it. Get 'er done!
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When you speak with Steve at SJ Sportscars, he says it's a pretty big deal going from the composite panel to glass. He has all the parts and pieces along with the glass panel ($795) for sale.
I seem to remember when I had an 89 esprit it was really easy going from one to the other.
Not sure why Steve would say that, unless he's referring to buying all the fittings (tongue, washers, bolts, catches, shims etc as well as the piece of glass) as its as simple as remove the composite and install the glass one, literally 30 seconds, i do it all the time.

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Here's an older but relevant thread about Esprit glass roofs:

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f16...eights-249481/

Attached are pictures of my Stevens glass roof. In order to 'simulate' a taller gasket, I got stick-on foam gasket and put on the glass top.

That allowed interchange with the composite whenever I felt like it.
I do have the SJS rubber 'taller' gasket - in hindsight, if it is installed, it would be tighter on the composite top.

That's because rumor has it that factory-installed glass top cars had the fiberglass body actually cut lower to fit the glass top.
Not sure if that makes sense, but that's what I heard.
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My V8 came with a glass roof and not a composite. Personally I have never used the glass roofs on the Esprits I've owned, therefore my first job was to source a composite panel. It took a couple of months to find one, have it painted and re-trimmed.
My glass roof now sits rather lonely in its bag in the barn. Horses for courses I guess! LOL
I also got a wind deflector with the composite, but I'm believe its for a G car, as it does not fit my V8 (what's the going rate for these, as I'd be happy to let it go?)
Anyone out there with a V8 wind deflector they want to sell?
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I'm fairly interested. Pricing wise $1200 to $1300. I almost bought one on the internet earlier this week and almost got scammed. Thank goodness I had PayPal to get my money back.
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My V8 came with a glass roof and not a composite. Personally I have never used the glass roofs on the Esprits I've owned, therefore my first job was to source a composite panel. It took a couple of months to find one, have it painted and re-trimmed.
My glass roof now sits rather lonely in its bag in the barn. Horses for courses I guess! LOL
I also got a wind deflector with the composite, but I'm believe its for a G car, as it does not fit my V8 (what's the going rate for these, as I'd be happy to let it go?)
Anyone out there with a V8 wind deflector they want to sell?
I have a couple, what colour are you looking for?

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I also got a wind deflector with the composite, but I'm believe its for a G car, as it does not fit my V8 (what's the going rate for these, as I'd be happy to let it go?)
Anyone out there with a V8 wind deflector they want to sell?
I have 2 Steven's deflectors (one from an 88 A23 Calypso Red excellent shape with only a few tiny touch ups and the other is unknown year Black with some scuffs).

I tested both interchangably on my 88 Stevens and definitely Stevens/V8 Esprit.

My current 87 Esprit is Giugiuaro and would like to trade straight across for your Giugiaro deflector (rather have extra Giugiaro than extra Stevens deflector. I would like to see a picture of it to confirm it. The Giugiaro deflector has a shorter height outer-edge that is shaped slightly differently. I have a photo somewhere - will post if I can find it.

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Here's the deflectors - note the one on the right has a curved molding on right.
The one on the left has 90 degree angle.

Please confirm which one you have. LEFT - Giugiaro deflector. RIGHT - Stevens deflector
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Eddie, mine is the same as the one on the left.
Also has the velcro piece of material in the center.

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