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Are the hood vents above the wheel wells actually functional? ie, were the wheelwell liners redesigned to allow air to escape?
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Are the hood vents above the wheel wells actually functional? ie, were the wheelwell liners redesigned to allow air to escape?
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Just bought a 2020 Evora GT, should be delivered to the dealer in the next three weeks (before end of July) for pickup. I think the car sounds great, but my wife says that the startup exhaust sound will wake up the kids in their bedroom over the garage. Usually these systems work by vacuum, and once the car is started at a louder note the vacuum kicks in and you can change to a quieter setting to leave the house, then bring the big sound back once on the road. Does anyone have any suggestions or method to keep the exhaust note quieter at startup?
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Is the GT actually to be the last Evora for the USA based on the current platform?

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Is the GT actually to be the last Evora for the USA based on the current platform?
Such is the claim. We have the GT and rest of world has the GT410 until new model replaces as a 2021

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I was at my local dealer earlier this week for the Evora recall and I asked whether they could provide a power upgrade kit (or retune) from the 410 that has the 400 tune to the new GT 420 tune. The reply from the Lotus rep was not at the moment (but sort of left the door open for the future). He also clarified that the GT is 416 HP, not 420. Sounds like all the federal cars have the CARB tune.
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Cough cough just get the Komo Tec 435 reflash cough cough.

My 400 picked up about 30hp at the wheels and it's not just at peak. It towers over OE from 2500rpm on.
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I have been following the Komo Tec thread and it does sound good. I wanted to explore what, if anything, might be available from Lotus through the dealers.

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I wonder how much HP the GRP decat will add? I wonít be doing it for the additional power but rather the more raucous exhaust.
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I wonder how much HP the GRP decat will add? I wonít be doing it for the additional power but rather the more raucous exhaust.
I added the GRP to my '17 400. The sound is out of this world. Sounds better than any exotic car out there when it comes to tone and level volume. I tested DYNO my 400 couple of years ago and stock came with exactly 408 hp. I assume with the GRP it gained a handful more. It is also much lighter than the CAT.
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I wonder how much HP the GRP decat will add? I won’t be doing it for the additional power but rather the more raucous exhaust.
Greg posted a dyne plot pre and post install of CAI and defat pipe showing a delta of 12 Hp, at 6500 rpm and about 7-8 Hp above 5250 rpm. Based on my S cars dynes and breathing studies the stock intake is not bad and the 'BOE' CAI only added power at the very upper rpm reaches which showed above 6600 rpm to the 7200 redline; this was on an engine breathing though the smaller restricted SC but with open headers exhaust with peak power about the same level of these cars 430 at flywheel. So I would estimate that the CAT removal on a non CARB version of the GT (422 Hp) gets it back to about the euro 430
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Hmmm. So you guys are saying approximately how much additional HP with the decat but not doing try CAI?

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Still confused about the US cars' HP. The Lotus site has been updated so shows all the colors now, and has additional info about wheels/tires, etc. (I note the 400 page still doesn't show wheel size, only tire size). What's really confusing is the specs, and added to Scott Bowman's post above, it states that the weight is 19 kg more than the 400, that torque is up 15 ft. lbs for the manual, and down 7 ft. lbs for the auto, and that hp is 416, or it seems, for all US cars. The manual version improves .3 sec to 60, while the auto version improves .2 sec. That last figure seems a bit optimistic, given that, while there is a 4% increase in HP, there is a 2% reduction in torque and a .5% increase in weight. I realize that anything from tires to gear ratios to humidity can change all of those figures, so main question: is the 416 accurate for all US cars?
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Hmmm. So you guys are saying approximately how much additional HP with the decat but not doing try CAI?
about 7 to 10
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Still confused about the US cars' HP. The Lotus site has been updated so shows all the colors now, and has additional info about wheels/tires, etc. (I note the 400 page still doesn't show wheel size, only tire size). What's really confusing is the specs, and added to Scott Bowman's post above, it states that the weight is 19 kg more than the 400, that torque is up 15 ft. lbs for the manual, and down 7 ft. lbs for the auto, and that hp is 416, or it seems, for all US cars. The manual version improves .3 sec to 60, while the auto version improves .2 sec. That last figure seems a bit optimistic, given that, while there is a 4% increase in HP, there is a 2% reduction in torque and a .5% increase in weight. I realize that anything from tires to gear ratios to humidity can change all of those figures, so main question: is the 416 accurate for all US cars?
A dealer will have to answer this, but a) i have been told by a reputable dealer that the engine has two power levels and b) does it really matter, 6 Hp is within repeatability noise level if you dyno'd your car on same dyno on different days.

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A dealer will have to answer this, but a) i have been told by a reputable dealer that the engine has two power levels and b) does it really matter, 6 Hp is within repeatability noise level if you dyno'd your car on same dyno on different days.
My inquiry last week about power levels and possible tunes was made through the dealer, but answered by the Lotus North American rep who should know how the U.S. cars are configured. As noted, though, this is not a big difference in real world testing.
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Such is the claim. We have the GT and rest of world has the GT410 until new model replaces as a 2021
I was told there would be one more car using the Evora platform before a completely new model comes along? Not necessarily that it will be an Evora by name...

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My inquiry last week about power levels and possible tunes was made through the dealer, but answered by the Lotus North American rep who should know how the U.S. cars are configured. As noted, though, this is not a big difference in real world testing.
And I think that's the issue, at least for me. I have enjoyed all of my Lotus cars, and each has been pretty substantially different than the prior model. I have no doubt that the GT is an improvement, and probably in many ways. If I didn't have a 400, there wouldn't be a question. But having a 400, and looking at (another) $20+k hit to exit, and probably paying near full price if I buy now, that's quite a lot of money for 16 hp, and further, the front end is minimally different.

I applaud Lotus for continuing to make improvements on what has historically been a shoestring budget, and I imagine that little if any of the new Geely money is seen in the GT; it's obviously a stop-gap for the US, given it was a limited edition venture outside of the US where they can still offer the Elise and Exige range, and the actual 410. We'll all have different opinions, and mine is valid for me, and yours is valid for you.

I look forward to the new models and a roadster (), and I congratulate anyone who purchases a GT, and would be excited to see one (or actually, any Lotus) on the road.
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Itís a $20K+ hit just to get into a 2018 400 from a 2017. And thatís with the $12K manufacturerís rebate in play. Moving up to a GT would be more like $40k+.

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