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post #61 of 122 (permalink) Old 08-21-2014, 03:38 PM
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Haha! I actually designed these for my Aston Martin V8 Vantage. I wanted to get the tires changed and do not trust any shop to use the tiny jack points correctly (even though I made jack point blocks).

There was really no way to put the Aston on 4 regular jack stands. Can't get under the front or rear to jack it up. Jack it up on one side, then put one jack stand on the front jack point. Then what? Lower it down on one jack stand, with no keeper for the stand, just smooth aluminum? I think not.

So....I made these..

Jack up one side of the car, take both wheels off, mount these hub stands. Set on ground. Then go to the other side and repeat.

Now I can put new tires on my Vantage!!!

I plan to use the hell out of them on our Exige as well. No more winter flat spots on the R888's.

Can't work on suspension with them (other than leveling the car etc..) but there are many other uses for them.

For those that can't imagine that they'd be stable, here is a video.

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They will not work well (or easily) with A-arm suspensions. They are more appropriate for strut suspensions.
With A-arms, when compressing the suspension from full droop to ride height the hub can move "out" (i.e., perpendicular to the chassis) an inch or more. Those stands will not accommodate that motion unless they are on rollers, which kind of defeats the purpose .

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Actually they worked just fine on the Lotus and on the rear of the 510 in the video. I do know what you are talking about though. The foot pads on the stands kinda slid and scooted their way out over the concrete in the shop when putting the car down. Nothing startling though!

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Not that I'm suggesting a re-design, but you could address that small chance of it slipping out by simply making the base wider/larger overall. That would provide a more stable footprint preventing any possible minor creep.
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saw this earlier today, has anybody tried it? looks like it would work good for those who needs 4 corner off the ground and don't want to deal with jack stands.



https://technotoytuning.com/universa...ing-hub-stands

These are perfect - inexpensive and does what I need. Will definitely have to get a set! It's an extra step to take the wheels off but not a deal breaker for saving a lot of money.


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F1 SML8R: These are very stable, as seen in the Youtube video, but I will widen the foot pads by 1.5" all around. Thank you for your input.

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Agreed, the video definitely got the point across, but the extra surface area definitely couldn't hurt. Overall, great solution.
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Time to get the Evora up on stands. Need to remove wheels, and change that vintage brake fluid. Lifted the Elise a zillion times. I like lifting Evora better.

First of all, an Evora has awesome deeply ribbed aluminium pads to lift on.

I stole a bit of Chrome Orange's idea, but a lot simpler (Lotus like?)

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4 stands. I like these, not cheap but perfect for our cars. And I'm getting under there!

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Also, two jacks. I have the small one and a larger one from Harbor Freight. I know that place is quite questionable but these do work.
Hockey puck or wooden pad that size.

Rhino ramp

This is the key: a thick piece of wood about a foot square.

This took maybe 20 minutes, first time.

Here we go.

Use large jack to lift by rear pad enough to place a stand under the front point (all stands are as short as they will adjust).

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Place Rhino ramp under rear wheel.

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Remove large jack.
Use small jack to raise enough to remove Rhinoramp. This is about as tall as it will go

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Place the wooden piece on the large jack, position under rear wheel, and lift enough to remove small jack and place a stand.


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Remove large jack with wooden piece

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With permission of the OP, might want Moderator to rename this thread something like "Placing Evora on jack stands" to make it easier to search.

I thought about doing a separate thread but there are several good solutions here, esp the one Julian uses.

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Those look pretty tall even when they're lowered all the way down. I don't know if they'll fit under the Evora without placing shorter stands on the corners first then exchanging them out. The biggest problem with a lot of these methods is that they require jacking each corner multiple times to exchange out different size jacks, stands, boards, etc. then lowering each corner multiple times to remove the stuff again.

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I'll stick with my method one lift up on each side, ending on 4 jackstands.

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saw this earlier today, has anybody tried it? looks like it would work good for those who needs 4 corner off the ground and don't want to deal with jack stands.



https://technotoytuning.com/universa...ing-hub-stands


Has anyone tried these - considering getting a set for my Exige...

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Has anyone tried these - considering getting a set for my Exige...
The big downside with those are they do not have rollers. So they're actually quite dangerous if you don't take the necessary precautions, when jacking up another point.
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Not to be an ass, but jacking the Evora onto stands is not so simple.

Before I received my car I purchased 4 nice ESCO jackstands, with a stable tripod base and flat rubber tops, well recommended for the Elise, I was all set for maintenance, the day the car arrived, WRONG.

Spent more than my other 12 jackstands put together and almost worthless on the Evore, the lift points are one and the same as the only stand points, thus the significance of the thread. No it ain't rocket science, but then the solutions are not shop & beer talk either.

Solutions range from put car up up on ramps, wheel hub stands or the direction I went after my 1st misfire, then 2nd ramp pat, I now use 2 Jackpoint stands (http://www.jackpointjackstands.com/) at back lifting point and the ESCO's slide under the front points. Jackpoints are not cheap, but 2 will not break the bank and will guarantee a stable base, suspension free work space and no risk of chassis break.

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saw this earlier today, has anybody tried it? looks like it would work good for those who needs 4 corner off the ground and don't want to deal with jack stands.



https://technotoytuning.com/universa...ing-hub-stands
I was looking at making something similar to these but with 4 castor wheels on the bottom of each hub stand. Anyone see a problem with lifting or moving around the car on this type of setup?

It would allow me to remove/store the wheels for winter and push the car into the corner of the garage out of the way. I don't think I could just put the car on the stands and have it far enough out of the way for peace of mind
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I tried putting wheel casters on Evora to move it and it was to hard to push .
No real place to grab it like Model A Truck that has real steel and not plastic on Evora that if you grab it and tug or push real hard would do some real damage to it.
The bolt on axle lift would not be good for front because you can not lock front wheels and if you put wheel on them and push your axle will turn with pushing pressure .
You could put bar from front to rear but seems like to much in the way to work on Evora..
Either lift or few heavy duty jacks to get it high enough for jack stands.
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