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I’m having a hard time getting excited about an unabtainium hypercar that nobody can afford and they’re probably only going to build 5 of. Even less excited about the all electric part. At 2000 electric HP, will it even make it a 1/4 mile at full throttle before the batteries are dead?
They’ll last 7 minutes at track speeds. Pretty amazing. Huge batteries though.... and weight
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They’ll last 7 minutes at track speeds. Pretty amazing. Huge batteries though.... and weight
If the traction motors really are 500HP each, then presumably regenerative braking is very effective. Road course work is a lot of accelerating and decelerating, and depending on the course, you might not exceed 100 MPH at any point (see Lime Rock). Diving into turn 1 and being able to dump 80 MPH of kinetic energy into the battery pack with regen braking should help battery life quite a bit on a road course.

This comes down to how fast the pack can accept a charge. There's been a lot of work in this area in the last decade, and presumably the Williams secret sauce that enables 1500 KW output from the pack will also enable high charge rates, and thus heavy regenerative braking.
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This is a home run (maybe I should say goal? or century?) Even if they never build a single production car, this is a brilliant showing of everything Lotus is.

There is a lot of criticism on this board - and I include myself - and we tend to believe it's all constructive, and as fans and owners we are certainly able to offer our opinions. But I think we collectively owe a huge round of applause and a great deal of thanks to the dedicated team at Lotus who continue to build cars that are true to their purpose, and while change is inevitable if Lotus is to not just survive, but thrive, I believe they have done a fantastic job of making true sports cars at below extravagant prices, that constantly evolve, or in this case, jump to hyperdrive!

Thank you, Lotus. Thank you, ACB Chapman. And thanks to everyone on this board for caring.

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This is a home run (maybe I should say goal? or century?) Even if they never build a single production car, this is a brilliant showing of everything Lotus is.

There is a lot of criticism on this board - and I include myself - and we tend to believe it's all constructive, and as fans and owners we are certainly able to offer our opinions. But I think we collectively owe a huge round of applause and a great deal of thanks to the dedicated team at Lotus who continue to build cars that are true to their purpose, and while change is inevitable if Lotus is to not just survive, but thrive, I believe they have done a fantastic job of making true sports cars at below extravagant prices, that constantly evolve, or in this case, jump to hyperdrive!

Thank you, Lotus. Thank you, ACB Chapman. And thanks to everyone on this board for caring.

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The Lotus Evija will be in production next year. 130 cars will be produce.
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You can save more than that, NSX's are being discounted heavily.
Yes, that's true; the NSX is really a very cheap 918; but at 2 tons, it's a very fast pig.
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The Lotus Evija will be in production next year. 130 cars will be produce.
Coming out right after the GT Roadster and the 5 Paris cars.

To their credit, looks like they did produce all the 430 GT and Sport cars.

I don't know if he actually said it, but I believe Enzo Ferrari has been credited with saying he would build one less Ferrari than what the market wanted, so hoping there are at least 131 Evija buyers. I am sure the new sales and marketing teams know which circles to travel in to assess the market for this.
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Neat exercise and everything, but the question is, what have they been doing in the meantime towards the cars we will actually put in the garage?

No telling what sort of $$$ went into developing such a thing.

I guess it will project the name and some prestige of the marque to a broader audience. Is this the styling direction Lotus are going?
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It's good to see Lotus finally rolling out new products with the financial backing of Geely. I hope they don't forget to produce lightweight fun cars for us without deep pockets.
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Neat exercise and everything, but the question is, what have they been doing in the meantime towards the cars we will actually put in the garage?

No telling what sort of $$$ went into developing such a thing.

I guess it will project the name and some prestige of the marque to a broader audience. Is this the styling direction Lotus are going?
Aha . . . you are the guy who noticed Gisele Bundchen‘s thighs wobbled a bit on the Victoria’s Secret runway.

“That’s fine and all—she looks pretty good despite the thigh-wobble. But when are they gonna have models that show how normal women look in lingerie?”

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Aha . . . you are the guy who noticed Gisele Bundchen‘s thighs wobbled a bit on the Victoria’s Secret runway.

“That’s fine and all—she looks pretty good despite the thigh-wobble. But when are they gonna have models that show how normal women look in lingerie?”
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Is this the styling direction Lotus are going?
I hope so! Could you imagine some of these styling cues going into a Elise or Evora variant. They would look fantastic. Design wise, the Evija is like they took the best bits of a Ferrari, McLaren, Ford GT, and Koenigsegg.

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I hope so! Could you imagine some of these styling cues going into a Elise or Evora variant. They would look fantastic. Design wise, the Evija is like they took the best bits of a Ferrari, McLaren, Ford GT, and Koenigsegg.
Some of these are already seen in the 410/430 Gt in Europe with the open arches and aero through the front bumper, wings and rear bumper. Styling with substance .
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This is really wild. Just like that, Lotus went from a company that made two relatively affordable, relatively old-school cars (both brilliant), one of which is based on a nearly 20-year-old chassis design and the other which is over ten years old, to creating one of the most sculpturally beautiful, prohibitively expensive and insanely powerful hypercars in the world. They just catapulted over everything that has happened in the last 10 years of automotive technology in one fell swoop. A truly modern Lotus is upon us. Exciting times...
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Aha . . . you are the guy who noticed Gisele Bundchen‘s thighs wobbled a bit on the Victoria’s Secret runway.

“That’s fine and all—she looks pretty good despite the thigh-wobble. But when are they gonna have models that show how normal women look in lingerie?”
Guilty as charged, I guess.

Somehow I’m missing the point.

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Sorry. I just can’t excited about this car. Sure it’s great advertising for the Lotus brand, but am I the only one that would rather rip around a track in an Exige 430 than this electric hypercar?
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Sorry. I just can’t excited about this car. Sure it’s great advertising for the Lotus brand, but am I the only one that would rather rip around a track in an Exige 430 than this electric hypercar?
No, you're definitely not the only one. However I look at it as Lotus stepping out to lead the way, as they did in the 50's 60's. 70's and even the 80's. Like, OK you want to play the Hypercar game because "obviously" building a Hypercar must define how good your products are, well Lotus said, hold my bear and watch this. Yes it has tinges of Ferrari in the front (last has Ferrari's of today have traits from Lotus) and Ford GT Gen 2 in the back, or was that really LMP body that Ford copied; regardless Lotus seems to be only company that has blended front to side to rear end.

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Also the evija has an "e" on the side if you observe.

I reckon this car offers a different kind of track experience than a Exige 430. Perhaps relatively, someone can look at Exige 430 and claim that nothing tracks like Formula car.

Lotus wants to build their VIP clientele and this is one way to do a catch up. Assuming the cost is $1M per car. If all sold, Lotus pockets about $130M which hopefully will be reinvested into building next gen Elise/Exige/Evora. If so, I am all for that.


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This is just insane - I'm modeled the car with Cartest2000 and am floored...

Best guessed to make it match 200+ mph and 8.6 seconds 0-300kph (186.5 mph) acceleration
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Hope your model is right - I think the Evija will need to hit a sub-2-second 0-60 time to stay competitive with the Tesla Roaster without Elon's cartoonish rocket boosters lol. I don't think the general public is going to understand a 0-300 km time estimate; it's not a common metric. I really hope they find a way to push the power above 2,000 hp too - it sounds a lot better to say "over 2,000" than 1,972 from a marketing standpoint.
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Hope your model is right - I think the Evija will need to hit a sub-2-second 0-60 time to stay competitive with the Tesla Roaster without Elon's cartoonish rocket boosters lol. I don't think the general public is going to understand a 0-300 km time estimate; it's not a common metric. I really hope they find a way to push the power above 2,000 hp too - it sounds a lot better to say "over 2,000" than 1,972 from a marketing standpoint.
Ah but it turns out 0-300kph is a common Hypercar metric. I don't think the vernal public will be purchasing this car. as t 1972 Hp, perhaps the reason they used PS units at 2000. But really, isn't the highest in the world enough.
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