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Is the window regulator in the Evora S shared with any other car?
Dealers are quoting $615 for the part.

Window regulator in my last 911 cost $260.

Is the Evora unit proprietary?
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Is the window regulator in the Evora S shared with any other car?
Dealers are quoting $615 for the part.

Window regulator in my last 911 cost $260.

Is the Evora unit proprietary?
They're made by an Italian company called Cebi Motors (previously Nuova SME), and haven't been cross-referenced on any other vehicle that I've seen.

I have seen some posts with some disassembly, and repairs made to existing regulators, to avoid having to buy new ones.

It would be great though to get the motor dimensions and pics of how it interfaces the cables and pulleys. Might be able to take the parts in and match them up with something else.
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lotus engineer: “we’ll use a Toyota engine because they’re reliable”
Lotus ceo: “yeah but people expect exotics to be quirky”
Lotus engineer: “oh yeah, dont worry about that, we got it covered.”
Lotus Ceo: “we do?”
Lotus engineer: “totaly, we’ve hired a tribe in the Amazon to design and build the wiring harness in the car, and we’ve hired an Italian appliance repair shop to build the window regulators”
Lotus CEO: “they know how to do that!?”
Lotus Engineer: “they’ll figure it out...that should give us plenty of quirks”
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I can't wait until one of us comes up with something, because I'm refusing to pay that much for a motor that's just going to break again

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Not sure if this helps at all.
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My passenger regulator is shot too after only 16k miles and 5 years. Re-engineering this piece of crap is one of my winter projects.
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Aw c'mon Lotus - that motor looks like they've got some dude in a shop in Italy hand crafting them. Looks nice, but it sure doesn't look standard.
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I think my motor still works, I can hear it operating, something else broke. Just dont know if I want to tear into it in hopes its something I can repair. I may just drop the stupid amount of money for a new one... ugggh!
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Might just be the cable snapped, in which case you can replace that with the info @MLC provided.

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Might just be the cable snapped, in which case you can replace that with the info @MLC provided.
I repaired mine and it is working fine. I need to write up what I did and post it here. It is not worth paying several hundred dollars for a new assembly when all you need is a couple dollars worth of broken cable and a few hours of your time.
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I repaired mine and it is working fine. I need to write up what I did and post it here. It is not worth paying several hundred dollars for a new assembly when all you need is a couple dollars worth of broken cable and a few hours of your time.
Please do, mine **** the bed too this week!

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OK, I just uploaded a write up in the Evora How To section. It's called window regulator cable repair. I hope it is helpful, this is the first time for me to try such a repair. So far it is working good and I've had no problems.
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Sorry for the necro, but my LHS regulator appears to be on the fritz. Window goes down, but only comes up if I repeatedly pull up on the switch. It'll inch its way up until it closes. I'm guessing due to all the rain we've been having that water has ingressed into my regulator. No crunching sounds or anything, so I'm fairly confident that the cable and gears are fine.

State-side, I found C132B4051F for ~$800 (LOL), or I could get one from DeRoure for about $500 shipped (also LOL). Instead, I think I've managed to find the same motor and regulator assembly on the lifters for some models of Seat Ibiza MK2/3s.

I've ordered one for $275 shipped and will hopefully be able to transplant it to the existing Evora lifter rail. I'll definitely take some pics and post it if it turns out to be successful.

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Hope this works out

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I have a YouTube series on how to swap out. Hope this helps!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMK...X9s8vVxsTkj4RQ
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I’m not sure, but I may have found a solution. I had my DS regulator replaced, but I’m suspecting I got screwed and he only “fixed” it. I came across this site from Phoenix and was wondering if anyone ever heard of this service shop. If this is legit, it may be our answer.

https://powerwindowrepair.com
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Had it last year after heavy rain, almost ordered regulator, but I gave it a chance.

Took the doors card off, dried inside with a heat gun (I don't have hairdryer), kept it ventilated for another half a day, sprayed some Andy's Super Oil (better alternative for WD40) all over, let it dry another hour and, works as new since.
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Sorry for the necro, but my LHS regulator appears to be on the fritz. [...] I think I've managed to find the same motor and regulator assembly on the lifters for some models of Seat Ibiza MK2/3s. [...] I've ordered one for $275 shipped and will hopefully be able to transplant it to the existing Evora lifter rail. I'll definitely take some pics and post it if it turns out to be successful.
Agent, I looked through your more recent posts and didn't see an update on this one from a few months back. Any luck with the Seat part?
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Agent, I looked through your more recent posts and didn't see an update on this one from a few months back. Any luck with the Seat part?
I did pull the motor/gearbox/control from the Seat regulator frame. It appears to be the same part as the ones used on the Evoras. Made by Nuova SME, which is the Italian mfg for the OEM part. I never got around to pulling my driver side regulator though, as after the wet months, it dried out and the issue hasn't presented itself again. I'm sure come this fall/winter it'll be back, and then I'll be forced to fiddle with it.

I'm mainly concerned with the internal wiring. This regulator from the Seat has a 12-pin socket, as does the one from the Evora. I'll likely just plug it in and see what happens, but if things are wired differently, there'll probably be a bunch of popped fuses in my future. I'll definitely post an update when I get to working on it.

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Thanks. Will be interested to hear your results.

Somewhere I have a shredded door harness, I think. It's no good to reuse, and I was just saving it to salvage connectors (if indeed I did save it). Might allow you to bench test the part if you were inclined to do that -- yours if you want it, on the condition you post your results with photos.
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