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Intro: BC Racing Coilovers brought to you by Darkside Engineering




Hi guys and gals, we are proud to introduce a new option of coilovers for the Exige and Elise.


BC Racing Elise/Exige Coilovers - Brought to you by Darkside Engineering!







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  • Inverted Design
  • 30 Way Adjustable
  • Springrates: 5k front/7k rear. Can also be customized to anything for NO additional fees. They will be revalved accordingly if you need anything significantly higher.
  • 1 Year Warranty - Excellent exchange program also. In the unfortunate event that a damper was to blow out, BC will replace the blown damper with an entirely new unit for only $95. That limits your downtime, as well as not costing an arm and a leg to get them repaired.


The most exciting part about these is the price. Not looking to pay over $2000 for an awesome set of coilovers? Well we have your option right here. These babies are only $1250 , with free shipping to the 48 states. We run these on the shop Evo X, which sees frequent track time, as well as our Elise.


We are now accepting preorders. They are in the final stages of testing, and will arrive in the states in 3 weeks time. We are running a special for preorders right now, $100 off. So if you would like to preorder a set, they will be $1150 shipped for a limited time only. (Until we have stock)



We are the only company carrying these coilovers, so we welcome any questions you may have.


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Forgive me because I am a total novice when it comes to suspension, but these are supposed to be comparable to the current offerings, such as Nitrons? I just want to be sure that the affordable price isn't a result of inferior capabilities or something like that. Again, the answer might be right in your post, but I can't identify it.

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Forgive me because I am a total novice when it comes to suspension, but these are supposed to be comparable to the current offerings, such as Nitrons? I just want to be sure that the affordable price isn't a result of inferior capabilities or something like that. Again, the answer might be right in your post, but I can't identify it.
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How do they compare to the usual suspects (Ohlins, Nitro...)?
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5k? 7k? is this 500 & 700 lb spring rates? 30 way adjustable? Is that 15 compression and 15 rebound individualy set? or is this 30 settings with compression/rebound ratios set progresively higher like Nitron SA's for each step? Is that a 1 year free replacement warranty wit $95 per unit replacement after 1 year or $95 replacement for the first year only? Oh yeah and the inevitable weight question......How much?? Inquiring minds need to know!

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Sounds interesting. Can you give more info regarding spring rate? 5k and 7k doesn't ring a bell... I can't imagine they would be 5000lbs/in...

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+1 on the spring rates -- sounds off. Even at 500/700 lb/in, that seems EXTREMELY stiff for these cars.

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I had a feeling these responses would happen when I saw his thread last night. When you have a crowd who is willing to spend 40k+ on cars that are about as useful as 4 wheeled motorcycles, they want the best coil-overs; not the value oriented ones.

It may work with the Evo crowd (not my Evo), but it probably wont here.

They are decent, thats for sure, but no where near Nitrons or Ohlins. I am not trying to offend the vendor, just stating a fact.
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Interested...but I want to know more as everyone before me has stated.
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he's calling them Racing coilovers, so I trust theyre lighter than stock?? key point if ure going after the racing market no? anyone have the weight of the stock ones handy?

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I was looking at nitrons with 325/400 lb/in, so I'm sure 5000/7000 lb/in would be too stiff for me. Plus, the nitrons and ohlins in this range are single or double adjustable; I can't imagine being able to tune 30 different settings with my limited experience/time. That's one setting a day for a month, hoping none of the settings interacts with a previous setting, requiring you to do that one over!

I will be interested to see who these are right for, though...
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5k? 7k? is this 500 & 700 lb spring rates? 30 way adjustable? Is that 15 compression and 15 rebound individualy set? or is this 30 settings with compression/rebound ratios set progresively higher like Nitron SA's for each step? Is that a 1 year free replacement warranty wit $95 per unit replacement after 1 year or $95 replacement for the first year only? Oh yeah and the inevitable weight question......How much?? Inquiring minds need to know!
These are the same questions I have after seeing the post.

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Here is some comparision info:

Lotus Stnd
front rate = 242 lbs weight = 5.65 lbs
rear rate = 342 lbs weight = 6.25 lbs

Lotus Sport
front rate = 271 lbs weight = 5.65 lbs
rear rate = 371 lbs weight = 6.25 lbs

Lotus Track Pack
front rate = 180 > 271 lbs (variable rate vs load) weight = ???
rear rate = 260 > 371 lbs (variable rate vs load) weight = ???

BC/Darkside Racing Single Adjustable
front rate = 279 lbs weight = ???
rear rate = 391 lbs weight = ???
(purchaser specifed rates availible at no extra cost)

Nitron Sport Pro Single Adjustable (w Sector 111 spring rates)
front rate = 525 lbs weight = 4.6 lbs
rear rate = 650 lbs weight = 5.5 lbs

Nitron Sport Pro Single Adjustable (w Elise Parts spring rates)
front rate = 325 lbs weight = 4.6 lbs
rear rate = 400 lbs weight = 5.5 lbs


Nitron Track Double Adjustable
front rate = 475 lbs weight = 6.4 lbs (with remote reservoirs)
rear rate = 600 lbs weight = 8.05 lbs (with remote reservoirs)

Ohlin Track Double Adjustable
front rate = 326 lbs weight = 5.0 lbs (with remote reservoirs)
rear rate = 423 lbs weight = 6.95 lbs (with remote reservoirs)

BWR/Penske
front rate = 350 lbs weight = ???
rear rate = 500 lbs weight = ???

If anybody has the weight for the sets that I'm missing I'll include them in the info above.

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Forgive me because I am a total novice when it comes to suspension, but these are supposed to be comparable to the current offerings, such as Nitrons? I just want to be sure that the affordable price isn't a result of inferior capabilities or something like that. Again, the answer might be right in your post, but I can't identify it.
They are comparable to Nitron Sport Pros. They are single adjustable. Nitrons seem to come with a set spring rate, where these can be changed to anything you would like, for no additional cost.

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5k? 7k? is this 500 & 700 lb spring rates? 30 way adjustable? Is that 15 compression and 15 rebound individualy set? or is this 30 settings with compression/rebound ratios set progresively higher like Nitron SA's for each step? Is that a 1 year free replacement warranty wit $95 per unit replacement after 1 year or $95 replacement for the first year only? Oh yeah and the inevitable weight question......How much?? Inquiring minds need to know!
30 way meaning, there is one setting like a single adjustable Nitron Pro Sport, with a range of 30 adjustments.

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5k = 279lbs
7k = 391lbs

Its free replacements for the first year, if something were to happen. After the warranty is up (1 year), then you go into the $95 replacement plan.

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Sounds interesting. Can you give more info regarding spring rate? 5k and 7k doesn't ring a bell... I can't imagine they would be 5000lbs/in...
5k = 279lbs
7k = 391lbs

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+1 on the spring rates -- sounds off. Even at 500/700 lb/in, that seems EXTREMELY stiff for these cars.
5k = 279lbs
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I had a feeling these responses would happen when I saw his thread last night. When you have a crowd who is willing to spend 40k+ on cars that are about as useful as 4 wheeled motorcycles, they want the best coil-overs; not the value oriented ones.

It may work with the Evo crowd (not my Evo), but it probably wont here.

They are decent, thats for sure, but no where near Nitrons or Ohlins. I am not trying to offend the vendor, just stating a fact.
Lets see a comparo between the BC Racing coilovers I posted, and your Nitrons...

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he's calling them Racing coilovers, so I trust theyre lighter than stock?? keep point if ure going after the racing market no? anyone have the weight of the stock ones handy?
I will have to get exact weights.
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Lets see a comparo between the BC Racing coilovers I posted, and your Nitrons...
I have no Nitrons, nor do I intend to buy any. My point is that value priced coil overs are great in some circles, I just dont see this crowd buying into them.

No offense was meant.
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which series coilovers are these?
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BC stands for Bor Chaun, they are the manufacturers of the Megan Racing coilovers among others. It is suspected beyond reasonable doubt that they are also the manufacturer of the Apexi EXV series of coilovers.

They are located in Taiwan, their website is here: Taiwan Bor-Chuann= BC-racing =
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I have no Nitrons, nor do I intend to buy any. My point is that value priced coil overs are great in some circles, I just dont see this crowd buying into them.

No offense was meant.
Understood. I just do not want this to turn into anything it was not meant to be. I feel this crowd would like to have another, more affordable option for their cars. Not everybody needs to have $2500 coilovers for a car they do not compete in.

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which series coilovers are these?
They are a custom series, not like the usual BR series. We havent designated them a name yet.

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BC stands for Bor Chaun, they are the manufacturers of the Megan Racing coilovers among others. It is suspected beyond reasonable doubt that they are also the manufacturer of the Apexi EXV series of coilovers.

They are located in Taiwan, their website is here: Taiwan Bor-Chuann= BC-racing =
BC does make coilovers for a few other companies. Companies send in their specifications, and BC makes them. The coilovers shown here are of a higher quality than the other brands you listed.
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would this coilover setup be similiar to the Sachs offering sector 111 once had? also, would they be able to reccomend a setup for running slicks, meaning has enough research been done to assist in the decision process of customizing the setup for user needs?
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I have no Nitrons, nor do I intend to buy any. My point is that value priced coil overs are great in some circles, I just dont see this crowd buying into them.

No offense was meant.
I dont know man. This car is $40k+ sure. But this isnt a ferrari.

I dont neccesarily agree with your outlook on this.

If things work they work. These guys could have easily priced there coil-overs over $2k when priced next to the other options. Then would you have still made your comment.

I think if things work they work. Just because they are expensive doesnt neccesarily mean things are worlds better than a cheaper alternative.

Disclaimer> i have no idea the quality of these coil-overs they could be junk or they could be a great buy at the price for quaility. My comment is in general.

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BC stands for Bor Chaun, they are the manufacturers of the Megan Racing coilovers among others. It is suspected beyond reasonable doubt that they are also the manufacturer of the Apexi EXV series of coilovers.

They are located in Taiwan, their website is here: Taiwan Bor-Chuann= BC-racing =
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