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Dodge EV punks Dodge Challenger

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Dodge EV punks Challenger in a little unsanctioned drag racing | Up to Speed | Los Angeles Times

The Challenger lets off to let the boss win in the 2nd race, but who cares? I'd buy one if it makes it to market at a reasonable price. Assuming that Chrysler survives of course.

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How coincidental, they were resting side by side at Cars and Coffee (Irvine Edition) this morning.

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The Dodge EV is a sub-4 second 0-60 car.

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This is apparently the way Lotus has recently found it's way to profitability. Their consulting and engineering business is more profitable than the unit building cars to sell under the Lotus brand, which involves high overhead, product liability, and downstream warranty costs.

Companies like Chrysler, Tesla, and others are making the Lotus balance sheet look almost respectable these days.
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This is apparently the way Lotus has recently found it's way to profitability. Their consulting and engineering business is more profitable than the unit building cars to sell under the Lotus brand, which involves high overhead, product liability, and downstream warranty costs.
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Warranty costs... hmm, like a service action (recall) on cams?

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This is apparently the way Lotus has recently found it's way to profitability. Their consulting and engineering business is more profitable than the unit building cars to sell under the Lotus brand, which involves high overhead, product liability, and downstream warranty costs.

Companies like Chrysler, Tesla, and others are making the Lotus balance sheet look almost respectable these days.
Lotus has tradtionally been an engineering company first. The Road cars were always a way to fund the racing program under Chapman.
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Yes, I know. It's a smart strategy, especially now.

Given growing governmental demands, and overall economic pressures finally pushing traditional manufacturers to get smarter and more fuel efficient, Lotus, with its particular expertise in "lighter is better," is rather uniquely positioned to be very profitable simply by selling its expertise to others.
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I really wonder how much Dodge had to do with the EV. It's obviously just a PR stunt and has no possibility of being built. With Lotus' Tesla experience, I would not be surprised if Dodge commissioned Lotus to build them a 1 off vehicle so it appears Dodge is working on electric cars for Congress and the press. Dodge was too cheap to even have Lotus change the body panels.
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Chrysler did have Lotus build the concept car. It is not a PR stunt...Chrysler is serious. However in the economic and, in particular, the automotive crisis, who knows whether it will ever see production. The intent is very serious, though.

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I hope it doesn't unless they change the name back to Lotus.

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I hope it doesn't unless they change the name back to Lotus.
Why? The Tesla Roadster and Dodge EV are great for Lotus. It brings in revenue that keeps them going and, hopefully, will keep a stream of Lotus cars coming our way.

Remember, Lotus is an engineering company that happens to also build cars. They provide significant engineering work to many of the car companies in the world. Without that revenue and in-house expertise, Lotus would not be building cars.

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I agree in a sense, I just don't think a Dodge should have the same look as the Europa. Think about it, would you be ok with if Lotus helped design a car for Daewoo and they used the Elise body? Daewoo is using the Vauxhall Lightning/Opel Gt/Saturn Sky body for their own roadster, that is one thing that turned me away from a Sky Redline.. Daewoo. Dodge is by far better then Daewoo but there is nothing Exotic about Dodge.

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Think about it, would you be ok with if Lotus helped design a car for Daewoo and they used the Elise body?
Lotus already did that - I present, the Kia Elan.
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well kinda, they sold the m100 molds etc to kia, didn't really design it, kia made some small mods to it

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Hey guys! check out the newest one 2010 dodge challenger. I just hope it to be better than its previous ones.
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Hey guys! check out the newest one 2010 dodge challenger. I just hope it to be better than its previous ones.
I'll look past this veiled attempt at spam...but something needs to appear on that page that says more than just the words "2010 dodge challenger"

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