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I saw my first one in person right before surgery 8 weeks ago. I was amazed how similar it looked to an Elise. I've seen a couple Fiskers around though.

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Charging will likely never be as fast as filling a gastank. ....The ultimate eventuality is that gas will at some point in the future become so expensive that people migrate to other forms of energy for transportation simply because they cannot afford to do otherwise.
One of many possible "ultimate eventualities". Tesla has already demonstrated a battery swap for the Model S that is much faster than the average tank fill. Personally I would love to have an electric car just to get rid of the noise and smell of the ICE. Blasphemy? No -- progress.

Regarding the drag race, if you have been in an S you will know that the acceleration is instant, effortless, and constant. You can hit the optimal 1/4-mile time every time.

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I saw my first one in person right before surgery 8 weeks ago. I was amazed how similar it looked to an Elise. I've seen a couple Fiskers around though.
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They just opened a supercharging station about 50 miles north of me and are opening a store inside a mall about 30 miles south of me, and are working on getting a charging station there.Also another charging station is being placed in a mall about 200 miles north of me.

I spoke with a rep and they said that they are working on having it so that you can drive along i-95 from NY to FL.

Test drove the Model S sport model with the extra horsepower last week. I was doing about 30 and floored it and it spun the tires. It has tons of legroom since their is no transmission tunnel. However I cant see the point until battery costs come down. If you have to pay 10K for a new battery, that would equate to about 3200 gallons of gas, or if you were getting a comparable car that got 31 mpg about 100,000 miles, or the lifetime of a battery. So you wind up paying the same amount for a new battery as you would for gas, not to mention the cost of electricity of you are plugging it in at your home instead of the charging station.
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I was doing about 30 and floored it and it spun the tires. It has tons of legroom since their is no transmission tunnel. However I cant see the point until battery costs come down. If you have to pay 10K for a new battery, that would equate to about 3200 gallons of gas, or if you were getting a comparable car that got 31 mpg about 100,000 miles, or the lifetime of a battery. So you wind up paying the same amount for a new battery as you would for gas, not to mention the cost of electricity of you are plugging it in at your home instead of the charging station.
The point is not to save money, the point, which you made yourself (highlighted in bold) is to have a very fast, leading edge tech sports sedan.
People don't buy 100k cars to save money on gas. This is a direct competition to the M5s and AMG sedans that get like 15 mpg. Its fast and supposedly the safest car ever crash tested and its just goes and smoke tires in any speed and barely needs any regular maintenance.

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The Tesla love here on LT is very low. Too bad. Tesla is the most interesting car company on the planet and they are in the USA!
some people see anything different as bad. Some people see anything electric powered as lefty commie liberal crap. I don't view it as a green machine at all. I just like it because its fast, unique, appears well engineered, and its made in the USA (and it just happens to not require a fuel that makes oppressive countries rich).

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some people see anything different as bad. Some people see anything electric powered as lefty commie liberal crap. I don't view it as a green machine at all. I just like it because its fast, unique, appears well engineered, and its made in the USA (and it just happens to not require a fuel that makes oppressive countries rich).
Wow, that's like a bullet point list of why we bought one.

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Drove a friends model S the other day. It is a very nice car. To me, the amazing thing is that is just seems like a solid, well engineered car and this is really the first complete car they have made. The original roadster shared a lot of parts and was almost like a test mule for their drive system. Other car manufacturers have been honing each aspect of the car for decades and Tesla basically hit a home run on the first pitch. It is not a car I would fall in love with (I need the pipes to howl for that) but it seemed really good from point A to B. No surprises or weirdness, other than the silence, like a super nice gold cart.

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Drove a friends model S the other day. It is a very nice car. To me, the amazing thing is that is just seems like a solid, well engineered car and this is really the first complete car they have made. The original roadster shared a lot of parts and was almost like a test mule for their drive system. Other car manufacturers have been honing each aspect of the car for decades and Tesla basically hit a home run on the first pitch. It is not a car I would fall in love with (I need the pipes to howl for that) but it seemed really good from point A to B. No surprises or weirdness, other than the silence, like a super nice gold cart.
But:
- no rear cupholders
- touchscreen stuff is annoying to operate while driving
- car shuts off when you get out, leaving other passengers to roast/freeze in the summer/winter if you need to leave the car to grab something quickly
- car discharges itself (to the tune of like 8mi/day) just sitting there when it's like 70 out

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- no rear cupholders
- touchscreen stuff is annoying to operate while driving
- car shuts off when you get out, leaving other passengers to roast/freeze in the summer/winter if you need to leave the car to grab something quickly
- car discharges itself (to the tune of like 8mi/day) just sitting there when it's like 70 out
My double-din stereo put most of the controls in the touch screen, I agree it sucks. I'll take knobs and and buttons over a huge touch screen any day.

Does it come with a wireless fob? can't you just leave it with the passengers like you leave the key in the ignition?

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My double-din stereo put most of the controls in the touch screen, I agree it sucks. I'll take knobs and and buttons over a huge touch screen any day.

Does it come with a wireless fob? can't you just leave it with the passengers like you leave the key in the ignition?
The car is activated/deactivated using pressure on the driver's seat after it is locked/unlocked.

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