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2009 Toniq R

Heh... just wanted to say it looks like we are moving forward on importing a Toniq R to the US. Should be interesting. Since we first visited the car, there have been some significant developments in the chassis, suspension, and drivetrain. A lot of design input was given by an engineer who had worked on the Elise. The car is now capable of having installed just about any Mazda drivetrain. We are looking at some options, but I would like to get good torque and about 400hp in the engine. Car is a little over 1000 pounds, so it should be fun and do 0-60 in under 3 seconds.

I will post more when things develop.

Right now, we are looking at a pearl white body, possibly with carbon fiber inserts and bits.

If anyone else is interested in getting one, let me know by pm. Thanks.

We may head over to the UK for some more discussions and test drives through the countryside in a couple months.

Here is the first gen Toniq R, but in German.

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whats the story on the rear suspension - it was a little vauge a year or so back? and pics of the bare chasis? with suspension?

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The car sounds awesome.
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We had a great time driving around the Cornwall countryside. You know how it is over there, roads barely wide enough for two cars... walls of thickets and green on the sides, blasting around the corners. This was in the Honda Fireblade version with the sequential gearbox. Lots of fun.

Here is a video from the same roads-
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We are leaning towards a Garrett turbo 2.3l engine in the next car.

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Here is the first gen Toniq R, but in German.

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What Tim Schrick says is the following: 'If the young man who came here from San Diego last year is going to show up again, he should invite potential German customers to join him'.
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very cool indeed!

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Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time.

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Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time.
You should build it. I had a great time building my Caterham.....only took me 3 weekends.

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Should be fun. In a way, I want to build it... but reality is I will buy it assembled since I don't have the time.

Make sure you get an MSO (manufacturers Statement of Origin), separate receipts for the kit, engine, transmission, and labor if you have any hopes of registering it here in CA

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I will Morgan. Thanks for your input Tony. Maybe I will.

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I guess the pound tanking has helped a lot too

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I guess the pound tanking has helped a lot too
Exactly. It made less sense at 2:1.

Unfortunately for me, the movement of the pound has negatively impacted my company's sales in the UK.

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does anyone know what and how the chassis is, and what the front and rear suspensions are? any pics of that? toniq seems to NOT publish any photos of the mechanicals, only the body work?

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Here is peek at the solid model which shows a bit of the chassis and drivetrain.
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Did I miss the price and option list for the US?
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It was not given. Price is TBD. But it looks reasonable.

Standard
Rolling Chassis Module

Includes:-

• Powder coated chassis
• Powder coated aluminium interior panels
• Front and rear wishbones with pushrods and rockers
• Front and rear uprights with hubs, bearings, brake disks and callipers
• Pedal box assembly, master cylinders, brake bias bar
• Steering column and linkage
• Front and rear dampers
• Steering rack
• Brake line/hose kit
• Hand brake kit
• Fuel lines, tank, pump and sender
• Main chassis wiring loom
• 15” Pro Race 2 Wheels with Yokohama 195/50/15 A048 tyres
• All fasteners and fixings

Body/Light/Interior Module

Includes:-

• Full fibreglass body set in natural finish – requires paint
• All light units – main, side, day light running, front rear indicator, side repeater, stop, tail, reverse and fog
• AIM digital dash
• All switches
• Steering wheel
• Tillet composite seats
• Harnesses
• Aero Locking Fuel Cap
• Front grill
• Roll over bar with rear bracing
• Hand brake gaitor
• Master kill switch
• Mirrors
• Master kill switch
• All fasteners and fixings

Engine/Drive Train Module – Duratec 2.0L 200bhp

Includes:-

• Engine assembly complete including loom
• Gearbox Mazda 5 speed
• Engine/gearbox mounts
• Propshaft
• Driveshafts
• Differential Mazda Limited Slip
• Exhaust system complete
• Radiator with fan
• Water pipes and hoses
• Header tank
• Battery
• All fasteners and fixings

Options

Panel chassis and run wiring loom, brake and fuel lines
Factory build car (SVA/IVA cost additional)
6 Speed gearbox upgrade (Duratec only)
Full Roll cage

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Exactly. It made less sense at 2:1.

Unfortunately for me, the movement of the pound has negatively impacted my company's sales in the UK.
All electronics are dollar based so they are going to just have to suck it up and buy.

Let me know if you need me to talk to them for you

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