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So this thing actually starts out as a production Elise. I wonder if it still has the Elise VIN and registration. That would make it a whole lot easier for Hennessey, no emissions, crash testing, etc. That also means that he is making about a million profit per car.
Just like I said, sticker price Fail !

I doubt Hennessey did anything beyond tearing an elise apart and making a monster out of it?
Steven Tyler will barely put any miles on it, it will be a super garage queen.

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So this thing actually starts out as a production Elise. I wonder if it still has the Elise VIN and registration. That would make it a whole lot easier for Hennessey, no emissions, crash testing, etc. That also means that he is making about a million profit per car.
Start with a CA registered / legal Elise and you're good for a few years. Once it comes time to Smog check / renew plates, move vehicle to another state, like OR and save.

This way you've only paid sales tax on a '11 Elise and not a $1.2MM Venom.

I personally like the Venom. It's an Überhyper-Car with Lotus DNA and looks better 'n a Veyron IMO.

I'm also liking the new Exige, especially in that color. Needs a LARGER wing and smaller side view mirrors tho.

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I saw the yellow one (non roadster) at Pebble Beach last year and had the 'pleasure' of speaking with John Hennessey. If you've ever been to Pebble Beach, you'll know that you'll see/rub elbows with all manner of 'car guys' - from uber billionaire collectors to enthusiasts to car company executives. In just spending a few days there, we met and chatted with/took photos with tons of people including: Schwartzenegger, Dan Neil (Car Show), Barry Mequiar, Wayne Carini from Chasing Classic Cars, Dany Bahar (yep), Stephan Winkelman (CEO of Lambo), Cate Blanchett (yep, that Cate Blanchett), the Austrian dude who played the bag guy in Inglorious Basterds and many others. Most were very nice (for example, Barry Meguiar was a phenomenally nice man).

Of note, the Venom was in the lobby of the Portola Hotel. I go to look at it and find myself next to Michael Anthony of Van Halen - have a bunch of pics. We started talking cars and John Hennessey and crew walk up. After a small chat, Michael Anthony's lady friend, who used my iPhone to take the pics, turns and comments about what an a$$hole Hennessy and his peeps were!

On to the car. Sorry, I don't see it. It's cheating. This is Pagani, Koeningsegg, Bugatti money. Those cars are their OWN (regardless of the say AMG engine in the Pagani). Taking a Lotus Exige and an LS9 engine and doing all sorts of voodoo, just doesn't justify the price tag.

Also, what about resale? Even rocker guys sell cars. For example, I know a guy that has Steven Tyler's old Panoz AIV Roadster. Hell, I own two snare drums that I bought of of Tim 'Herb' Alexander from Primus! Rock guys sell off stuff!

What will the resale value of this car be? And yes, I'm sure they care. Paganis and Veyrons still command a king's ransom. I think this would depreciate rapidly. There's no provenance, no panache, no uniqueness is motoring history - it's just a frankenstein'd car
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The chassis is HIGHLY modified to handle the power..... not close enough to call it an "elise chassis" imo.

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the chassis is not highly modified, the subframe is replaced and bracing is added. the elise chassis does not have a floor pan... add that to the list of fail

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it's a million dollar hot rod. not my cup of tea, but if that's what floats his boat...

btw he used to have a Panoz AIV roadster so clearly he likes bizarre cars. can't knock him for that.

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it's a million dollar hot rod. not my cup of tea, but if that's what floats his boat...

btw he used to have a Panoz AIV roadster so clearly he likes bizarre cars. can't knock him for that.
Yep, I met they guy who owns the AIV now. Let's just say the fella was about 8X the size of little Steven Tyler.
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I spoke to the Hennessey reps at SEMA and no, it does not have an Elige title or registration. They import the cars partially built from Lotus, disassemble them and rebuild the BONE STOCK ELIGE tub with their stuff. Then they send it back to Europe where it gets the LS9 and is imported to the US again, this time reiceving it's new Hennessey title. Final assembley takes place here. When I get bored with my Elise in a few years, the Venom will inspire some über mods

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Looks like they took the pics of the car off....

But you can see it here...http://todayentertainment.today.msnb...legal-car?lite

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1200plus bhp......sounds a bit like another "James Dean" story about to happen......money doesn't buy you driving talent.
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I spoke to the Hennessey reps at SEMA and no, it does not have an Elige title or registration. They import the cars partially built from Lotus, disassemble them and rebuild the BONE STOCK ELIGE tub with their stuff. Then they send it back to Europe where it gets the LS9 and is imported to the US again, this time reiceving it's new Hennessey title. Final assembley takes place here. When I get bored with my Elise in a few years, the Venom will inspire some über mods
Hmmmm, that's not the exact story I got at Hennessey when I stopped by there to check on Ross's engine and get a tour of their shop (amazing place). Perhaps the official story differs for "tax purposes." At least in the case of this car, it allegedly started life as a full CA car, rolled eight miles up on the odometer and then was disassembled for the "conversion" and process of being sent to Europe and back again. Supposedly the other cars started as whole Elises in Europe, parts were stripped and sold there and what was left was brought to the US as the basis for those builds.

Allegedly and supposedly though, I can't say with any certainty.

If I had the cash-ish I'd ask for a naturally aspirated version, with half the horsepower, and proceed to track it. To me that sounds like a fun way of dying.

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1200plus bhp......sounds a bit like another "James Dean" story about to happen......money doesn't buy you driving talent.
Just out of curiosity, how do you know the guy doesn't have dozens of track days under his belt?
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Just out of curiosity, how do you know the guy doesn't have dozens of track days under his belt?
I do not think that having a few track days under your belt will exclude you from the possibility of that kind of outcome...
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Not even a lifetime of experience in fast cars will. Does the name Ayrton ring anyone's bells?!

If you're going to go faster than your body was designed to move, ie walk or run, you're going to risk that outcome no matter who you are.
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I just think it's a bit pointless to criticize every athlete, rock star or actor who buys a supercar, or every investment banker, CEO, lawyer, or doctor who buys a Porsche because they don't have the skills or "talent" to drive it. Even more so if you can't comment on what driving/racing schools or track days they have or have not done. A significant majority of the people on this forum would probably jump at the chance to own a supercar if it was an easy purchase based on net worth or annual income, regardless of driving talent.
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I just think it's a bit pointless to criticize every athlete, rock star or actor who buys a supercar, or every investment banker, CEO, lawyer, or doctor who buys a Porsche because they don't have the skills or "talent" to drive it. Even more so if you can't comment on what driving/racing schools or track days they have or have not done. A significant majority of the people on this forum would probably jump at the chance to own a supercar if it was an easy purchase based on net worth or annual income, regardless of driving talent.


Heck if I had the money.... I would buy a formula 1 just cause I can... and every color of this venom .

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LOL, 1.1million = 8.536 million HKD, when it arrive HK after the tax it will be more than 10 million HKD.

With that I will go for 918 P car and have a GT2 RS + a 911TTS for DD.

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No lie, on saturday of last weekend I was driving through an area in L.A. (not sure where, I was just cruising). A venom Gt in black flew past me, it had to have been steven's spyder... It's the only one right? I previously seen it at cars and coffee the week before. I can't believe I passed Steven on the road going the opposite direction!!!! That thing sounded like a beast, and looked so aggresive! I about shat my pants!
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No lie, on saturday of last weekend I was driving through an area in L.A. (not sure where, I was just cruising). A venom Gt in black flew past me, it had to have been steven's spyder... It's the only one right? I previously seen it at cars and coffee the week before. I can't believe I passed Steven on the road going the opposite direction!!!! That thing sounded like a beast, and looked so aggresive! I about shat my pants!
sorry about that, i will try not to rev so hard next time
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sorry about that, i will try not to rev so hard next time
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Is it just me or does the front clam's paint not match the rest of the car? Both silver, but not the same shade. Had to google who Steven Tyler is... My god... is it a dude or a chick? Ugly as **** either way!
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