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then the electric opener wouldn't work because of a steel beam running across the ceiling. Each solution to a problem resulted in another problem. Plan carefully.

Modifying the garage might be far tougher than assembling the lift.
They make garage door openers that sit on the top of the door frame. Here's a site for them: http://www.wayne-dalton.com/DirectDrive.asp - they leave the ceiling clear. Probably around $300...




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I have had a lift for 5 years....and it is great. I would definitly get a 4 versus 2 post.

Mine was from Aresco in Michigan - it was 2300 installed. I think the brand was Grant.

Wach ceiling heigh (I fit my shelby cobra and vette with a std ceiling). Also watch the gargage door as it rolls-up. If you need room from the door you can get an extension that allows the tracks to run at the ceiling versus 18 inches dropped.

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Make sure you check the height of your ceiling! keep in mind those lift only locks in a set intervals like 4" or 6" - and it has to go up a little bit before it comes down again - my garage is 2" not tall enough to let me put a parking lift in!
My other car is the same height as the Elise already.

I have talked to one of the salesmans, a very nice guy (too bad I forgot which company) he went through all the trouble with me trying to get the lift fitted inside my garage but we failed.

He told me some of his clients had their lifts went through the Northridge earthquake with no problem - just make sure they are not bolted down (or ur car will fell off) I would assume it's a safer place for my Elise to be if the roof of the garage will fall down .

There are also companies that make garage door with the motor on the side of the door.
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They make garage door openers that sit on the top of the door frame. Here's a site for them: http://www.wayne-dalton.com/DirectDrive.asp - they leave the ceiling clear. Probably around $300...
And this allows you to reposition the garage door tracks?

Does an open garage door need to be parallel to the ground or can it stay in place at an angle? Most garage doors roll back and bend abruptly making a 90 degree turn. Can you just change the tracks to have them go up and then retract at a 45 degree angle?

I plan on getting a lift as soon as I move to my next house. The house is being built with traditional doors and tracks, but I'm not having garage door openers installed by the builder for this very reason.


I think I'll have tall enough ceilings.

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And this allows you to reposition the garage door tracks?

Does an open garage door need to be parallel to the ground or can it stay in place at an angle? Most garage doors roll back and bend abruptly making a 90 degree turn. Can you just change the tracks to have them go up and then retract at a 45 degree angle?

I plan on getting a lift as soon as I move to my next house. The house is being built with traditional doors and tracks, but I'm not having garage door openers installed by the builder for this very reason.
No, but it removes the opener from being centered between and at the same height as the tracks.

You can have all sorts of custom options done with track configuration, but it wll start to get "custom" and expensive. I looked into it when I did my garage (nothing fancy, just repairs & rebuilding, really). In my case, I found it much more economical to drop the track down from the 10' ceiling to my opening height of ~7' and go with an off-the-shelf "low overhead kit."

For the first four feet of depth into my garage, the ceiling is the roof line. As a result, I had no room to make a 90 degree bend for the door and my top panel pulls straight back from the opening.

What I really wanted was a roll-up door.

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I had to dispose of my Boxster S to make room for the Exige (no regrets there) but did not consider this alternative due to my 10' ceiling. Do you have any contact info on your source.
The manufacturers website http://www.superlifts.com/. Nick (Detailer's Paradise) can get you all the information about ordering one.

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Don't stand there with your garage door closed and say 'yes, it will fit'. Keep in mind that no matter how tall your ceiling is in your garage, the garage door, when open, is only probably about 7' high from the floor. If you aren't able to install the lift far forward in your garage, you may need to change the track on the garage door, so the door goes all the way to the ceiling. I wanted to do that, but then the electric opener wouldn't work because of a steel beam running across the ceiling. Each solution to a problem resulted in another problem. Plan carefully.

Modifying the garage might be far tougher than assembling the lift.
That's why my garage is 32' deep. The lift is well away from the door. Even without the lift I could get the Elise and Neon nose to tail.

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Make sure you check the height of your ceiling! keep in mind those lift only locks in a set intervals like 4" or 6" - and it has to go up a little bit before it comes down again - my garage is 2" not tall enough to let me put a parking lift in!
My other car is the same height as the Elise already.
The Superlift has a lock at 18 inches and then nice locks between 3 and 6 feet. Very versatile.

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And this allows you to reposition the garage door tracks?

Does an open garage door need to be parallel to the ground or can it stay in place at an angle? Most garage doors roll back and bend abruptly making a 90 degree turn. Can you just change the tracks to have them go up and then retract at a 45 degree angle?
With the wall mount garage door opener, the opener is no longer suspended in the center of the ceiling.

The garage door track can be extended up wards - instead of the track curving horizontal just above the door opening, the "bend" can be moved up so that the door continues to be horizontal, just at a level just below the ceiling instead of at the height of the top of the door (on in your case, just below the bottom of the beam in the photo). Additionally, if the ceiling is say an extra 4 feet high above the door, then the first four feet of the garage door can still be "parked" vertically (and in the bend). You still have the same eight feet or so of garage door, it just doesn't stick "into" the garage as far.

Slide up garage doors are help up in two ways. Mine uses springs stretched along the horizontal part of the track that pull a cable over a pulley and attached to the bottom of the door. The other way of doing it is to have a torsion spring above the garage door - the spring applies it's force to a shaft with a drum on each end. The cable from the bottom of the door wraps around the drum - as the door raises, the torsion spring unwinds and winds up the cable "lifting" the door. Both of these systems use the springs to support some for the weight of the door so that you can lift the door by hand.

In the case of the wall mount garage door opener, the motor attaches to that shaft and adds its force to lift the door automatically (just like a regular garage door opener "pulls" the door up from the top.

In your case, since you appear to be having your house built, it should be a marginal increase in cost to specify that the builder adds the vertical track extension (cheap) and uses a torsional spring to support the door. You may also want them to source the wall mount door opener, especially if a door opener is part of the build.




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for those with std ceilings, consider notching the ceiling where the roof of the car is....that will give you a foot or two depending on the car. I have read several posts on other sites where guys have done this. Just make sure the ceiling is structural sound.

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This seems like a great solution to get my Bimmer into the house and off the streets. I wonder how the HOA would feel about it since I share the garage with 8 others?

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Does an open garage door need to be parallel to the ground or can it stay in place at an angle? Most garage doors roll back and bend abruptly making a 90 degree turn. Can you just change the tracks to have them go up and then retract at a 45 degree angle?
Some local regulations (including where I live) do require the door to be parallel to the floor when open. In the event a cable or spring breaks, the door won't come crashing down on someone.
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I have 2 Perfect park 7000's and a Eagle 9000 2 post. I'll shoot some pics of the door's and lifts tomorrow.

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I was thinking about getting this one.

http://www.gesusa.com/ges4less/produ...category=58002

With a 2 car garage, I can put this on the right-hand-side garage bay and there would be no posts in the middle part of my garage.

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A great idea if you have the space. My ceiling is 10' so it works great. I'm in the city so switching cars is tricky as parking is a problem and you have to park 2 cars when switching. I usually only do this on Sundays when it's not so tricky. Watch your head! Lots of ducking! Also, I had to scrap my regular center mounted opener system and switch to one that mounts directly over the opening.
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A great idea if you have the space. My ceiling is 10' so it works great. I'm in the city so switching cars is tricky as parking is a problem and you have to park 2 cars when switching. I usually only do this on Sundays when it's not so tricky. Watch your head! Lots of ducking! Also, I had to scrap my regular center mounted opener system and switch to one that mounts directly over the opening.
I saw that set-up on HGTV's "What You Get For The Money". Nice.

(just seems a bit narrow -- how do you get around the car & into the house?)

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That single post lift looks great but why would they sell stablaizing jacks? Go to the backyardbuddy.com and watch the video on the features. I think this would be a good starting point from a safety standpoint. The single jack version just seems like it would be unsteady. The company would obviously have thought of this because of lawsuits etc...right??
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Have one and love it -- got mine back in 1988 and it's still working. It survived the "Big One" in Cali in 1995 and didn't drop a car.

Hey...is that a parking solutions lift? I think it is...It looks like mine. I often wonder what happaned to them. I sometimes wonder if they went out of business because of something failing! I ordered mine in 1990 and it took them almost 9 months to get it to me. Parking Solutions made all sorts of lifts for quite a while. The made a cycle lift...a workshop lift (you put your workshop on it and up it went out of the way)....Does anybody know what happaned to them?

As to the garage door...it was only about $150 for the a guy to come in and put 2 foot extensions on my tracks. They now go up another 2 foot before they go horizontal. Works good...but I still cannot put a hatch back on the lift without lowering the door..and then keeping it down until I lower the hatch back out..

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