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post #21 of 33 (permalink) Old 09-22-2014, 03:50 PM
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I really like what you've done there. Funny, I had not thought of the 45-degree mounting, but it makes a lot of sense.

The setup is a deep 1-car which has a window and blinds, separated by about 25 feet to an oversized 2-car with no windows except a man door with one large (5 foot) window that is shaded by several large trees.

How many circuits did you use for the lighting in there? I have 200-amp service in a box that's nearly full, so I'm thinking of another service panel install to handle some additional 110-volt and a couple of 220-volt circuits for the air compressor and welders.
This garage has a separate service panel, obviously. The fluorescents are all on one circuit by themselves. The lift has its own circuit. The door has a separate circuit. The other lights and outlets are divided among several circuits.

Maybe I missed something, but why can't you put an A/C unit in the window? I've found the window units work better than the portable things and you don't need to worry about a duct.

And regarding the LiftMaster...If you're getting the same model I have, there's an optional surge protector that can be installed to protect the circuit board. I didn't know about this $30 device until the board got fried, resulting in much aggravation and a $175 repair bill. Ask your installer.

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This may not apply to you at all.... but a remodel is always a great time to reorganize. People tend to sort similar things into groups (fluids, filters, tools, etc..). I always encourage them to think about the tasks they plan to perform and set up that way. A shelf for brake stuff, pads, bleeder, fluid, maybe even the 10mm wrench for the fittings is the way to go. All the oil change stuff in one spot, wheel changing stuff next to your wheel rack....including torque wrench, impact, the gloves you use, anti-seize for the bolts, etc..

Don't mean to rant, it is just a nice opportunity to set it up right.

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This garage has a separate service panel, obviously. The fluorescents are all on one circuit by themselves. The lift has its own circuit. The door has a separate circuit. The other lights and outlets are divided among several circuits.

Maybe I missed something, but why can't you put an A/C unit in the window? I've found the window units work better than the portable things and you don't need to worry about a duct.

And regarding the LiftMaster...If you're getting the same model I have, there's an optional surge protector that can be installed to protect the circuit board. I didn't know about this $30 device until the board got fried, resulting in much aggravation and a $175 repair bill. Ask your installer.
Will do on the surge protector, KCZ, thanks for the heads-up. The LiftMaster is an 8500 model.

I don't like window AC units, as they are far less efficient than a ductless design, and much noisier as well. For the 2-car, there is no window anyway, so I'd have to cut and frame an opening. In the 1-car, I have a window, but it opens to the front of the house and the neighbors would probably look dimly on placing one there. I have a dreaded HOA to deal with, although I must say that, so far, they've left me alone and even approved a driveway gate I installed last year.

On the circuits, I don't have a separate service panel for the garages. Rather, I have one panel (200 amp service), and will need to install a service panel to add 220 volt and more 110 volt slots. I was just wondering if I needed two circuits or more for the lighting.

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This may not apply to you at all.... but a remodel is always a great time to reorganize. People tend to sort similar things into groups (fluids, filters, tools, etc..). I always encourage them to think about the tasks they plan to perform and set up that way. A shelf for brake stuff, pads, bleeder, fluid, maybe even the 10mm wrench for the fittings is the way to go. All the oil change stuff in one spot, wheel changing stuff next to your wheel rack....including torque wrench, impact, the gloves you use, anti-seize for the bolts, etc..

Don't mean to rant, it is just a nice opportunity to set it up right.
Jefrac,

I know what you mean, but I guess my racing years have led me down a different path. I tend to keep tool types together, fluids together, abrasives, etc. My scales and other items like that are kept to one side in their own rollable cases, as they are used less frequently than, say, a 13mm box spanner. For consummables like pads, these are kept separate in small bins labeled according to suspension, gearbox, brakes, etc. I used to use a notebook, ala Carrol Smith's practice, but an Excel spreadsheet is a planned switch, one per car, plus one for garage supplies, including nitrogen and welding gases.

I'm planning to install a media cabinet next year, so that will require storage for media types, and an anodizing run. All storage needs will be mapped out well before these are even set up and installed. I really hate clutter, and hunting about for things just wastes time.

My main problem right now is geography. The 2-car and 1-car are separated by about 25-30 feet, with the electrical service panel in the 1-car. I want to run air to both, putting the compressor in the 1-car and using RapidAir piping and tubing. I just don't know about burying the aluminum pipe to span the "gap" between the two garages.

Lots to do and to think about,

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Cost of Raising Garage Door?

Well, I just got the quote for raising my 2 car garage door - $1690, which I think is pretty high. He quotes a LiftMaster 8500 at $700 with 2 remotes and a backup battery separately at $70 in the quote.

Anyone had any experience with having this done and the cost?

The garage door is in good condition, about 9 years old and works fine. He also wants to replace the torsion springs from a single to a double, which is OK I guess.

I need the door raised for the 4 post lift.

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Liftmasters that model are $300 or so on Amazon.

To me, this seems like something I'd do myself, but it's going to take a day or so.

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I just had both of my doors quoted - a single and a double. This is what my local garage door guys said:
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David, thanks for the input...it seems like you are replacing an entire 2-car door in that quote.

The parts at DDMGarages are maybe $200 plus about $100 for dual springs. The LiftMaster is $300 (Amazon), so I'm at $600...that's why I was amazed at a $1600+ estimate.

I think the guy should buy me dinner, at least.

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Liftmasters that model are $300 or so on Amazon.

To me, this seems like something I'd do myself, but it's going to take a day or so.
Yep, I did the exact same thing and found it on Amazon. This guy wants over $700 for the exact same model.

If I was there at the house, I'd consider doing this myself. Messing with the springs does make me hesitate a bit, as they are dangerous in rookie hands. But I have to have this done before I set up the lift.

I was just a bit sticker-shocked.

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OK, I finally got the garage floors done. The floors were prepared through diamond grinding the floor. This was followed by an epoxy with mica flakes, which imparts a depth to the floor, with the epoxy coloured to the same colour as the flakes. I wanted to avoid the "granite" look and to make the floor highly reflective. This was followed by two coats of clear polyaspartic topcoats.

The cost was about the same as a normal epoxy, but the resiliency of the floor is supposed to be much higher....we'll see. It is supposed to withstand weld slag reasonably well, for example. Keep in mind that I plan on this being a working garage with a 4-post lift. I'll be welding and grinding, doing a complete restoration, as well as corner weighing cars and other race prep work. The polyaspartic is UV-resistant, whereas epoxy is not.

What do you think?
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That looks terrific!

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Thanks for posting. Looks very good.

Please let us know how it holds up over time to the use of mobile equipment with metal wheels....Like a floor jack and an engine hoist.

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Thanks guys,

The next step is to insulate the garage doors (I have an idea to do that with a two-part insulation method), then the heat/AC mini-split units. At least then I can work there year-round. I'm a complete dunce when it comes to running electrical and service panels, so I'll be stopping back by for advice.

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