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Elise vs Exige

So I did a bit of light digging and couldn't find anything, so I figured I'd ask.

What are the differences between the Elise and the Exige, and why would someone close one over the other?

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This is the best start you could have.

That said, and aesthetics aside (because those are obvious), the biggest difference is in power, but that also depends on the year. A 2006 Exige is arguably slower than a 2006 Elise because it's slightly heavier. The 2007+ Exiges come with superchargers from the factory. Could you add a SC yourself to an Elise? Sure you could. Would it be just as fast or faster than an Exige? It could be.

What you need to answer for yourself is what you're looking at these cars for and which will best service that desire. At the heart, they are the exact same. That's why you'll often see them referred to as the "Elige".

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So I did a bit of light digging and couldn't find anything, so I figured I'd ask.

What are the differences between the Elise and the Exige, and why would someone close one over the other?

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Mechanically they can be configured identically in almost every way. The first US Exige, the 06 was normally aspirated and was virtually identical to the 06 Elise mechanically. It came standard with the sport suspension that was an option on the Elise. Both had LSD and traction control as options.

Think about the difference in the 60's between the fastback and notch-back Mustangs. Same thing.

The Exige is more aerodynamic in terms of downforce. Body is hand laid, thicker, thus a bit heavier (excepting later variants that had some carbon fiber sprinkled in).

Because of the added weight and aero drag, magazine tests at the time comparing the 06 Elise and 06 Exige (the one year they were virtually identical mechanically out of the box) showed the Elise to be faster to 60, with higher top end. Marginally so. Lap times gave the nod to the Exige because of the downforce.

At the end of the day it boils down to which style you prefer, and if you truly need the aero characteristics of the Exige...which most people with sporting intentions modify anyway with different splitters, larger rear wing, canards, different difuser, etc. All of which can also be mounted on the Elise.

Folks make an issue about the total lack of rear visibility with the Exige, and the fixed roof. I've owned and spent many dozens of hours in both, and these issues are easily mitigated if you otherwise like the Exige. $50 in parts, $1K more or less for a soft top on the used market, and an hour of your time (measure twice, cut once) and you can have the Exige with the same top-off characteristic of the Elise. The visibility issue is easily taken care of with mirror adjustments, upgraded mirrors, or wiring a back up camera to be on full time. Or some combination thereof.

Again, using OEM parts you can configure them almost identically mechanically. The most notable exception is that there really isn't a convenient place to put a factory inter-cooler on an Elise, if you wanted to go that route. The later Elise's with factory superchargers didn't come with inter-coolers.

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To the point of rearward visibility, my Elise rearview mirror vibrates just enough that it is almost completely useless, especially with the soft top on or no roof there to stabilize the windscreen. I've had more heart attacks than help from it - my radio has blue backlighting which can create a strobe effect in the rear glass. Not fun at all to see flashing blue lights in the rearview...

Also, while the Exige has a fastback look, it is 90% look only. The mesh means that the airflow is still really nasty back there. Phil from BOE made a true fastback with a solid composite decklid if you want to see pictures.
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haha, how much digging did you actually do? cause that info should be everywhere.
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haha, how much digging did you actually do? cause that info should be everywhere.
Admittedly not much, and only on the forum lol. I mainly just wanted to participate on here

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Admittedly not much, and only on the forum lol. I mainly just wanted to participate on here

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Yeah there is more than enough info on this topic....especially on this forum You can imagine how many time this has been brought up over the years by folks joining but glad some chaps chimed in to help you out. Good luck on your search and decision! These truly are fun cars no matter which model you land in.

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Yeah there is more than enough info on this topic....especially on this forum You can imagine how many time this has been brought up over the years by folks joining but glad some chaps chimed in to help you out. Good luck on your search and decision! These truly are fun cars no matter which model you land in.
Yeah I'm glad some people chimed in to help me out. I did figure that the topic had already been brought up and that's why I did a little search first and when I found nothing I was surprised, so I posted. I've always considered the Elise to be my dream car.

And actually this Elise is (aesthetically) a perfect picture of what I want. I do like the idea of adding a supercharger, or a turbocharger, or both if reasonable. However I live in California where they hate cars apparently, so I'd probably have to get something that had one from the factory in order to get past smog.

Here's the Elise I mentioned
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-lotus-elise-7/

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Hunter that car has a built motor and REV 300 and has been highly modified. I looked at it when John went to sell it and the number of owners was one of my concerns. I was looking for a modded car but had no CA inspection concerns. I went with one with less carbon bling and more in suspension mods and track prep. I placed in the WTB section of LT just what I was looking for without doing anything to it myself and was patient and after a few months found a match in TN. Good luck in your search.
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Hunter that car has a built motor and REV 300 and has been highly modified.
Forgive my ignorance but what is a built motor and REV 300? I'm still new to all the Elise mods and all these part numbers and stuff. I'm also new to the car enthusiast world and I'm trying to learn. Is there anywhere specific I can go to get a general breakdown of what's what with mods and general info on these cars?

I've always loved the look of the Elise and it's been a dream car for a long time, but I have never really started looking into all the details until recently when it's actually coming close to feasible to buy one.

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Google is your friend and I would suggest doing something like I did and spent 4-5 months reading back thru every thread and post on LT for the last ten years before I set out on my search for a Lotus. Look at the vendors on this website and all their products and descriptions so you can see differences between OEM and aftermarket. BOE, MWR, BWR,GRP, Inokinetic are all good places to start. BOE has very informative tech and support sections. Find a Cars and Coffee near you! I found a very informative bunch and was even handed a set of keys to take for a spin.

You will find depending on your intentions with the car what mods are needed or desired for your application.

The more you educate yourself the better you will be prepared for scams (lots online) and cars that you should pass by. I knew I would be doing all of my own work since there's no dealer or indie shops within 3 hours. I saw trends in prices with the seasons and constantly watched BaT, ebay, AT, CG along with LotusTalk. Cars and parts in high demand and low prices don't last long on here!

Once I had educated myself and promising my better half I wouldn't start any more projects (lol) along with being in my 60's prompted me to find a modded car that I could save time and money on the mods I wanted. I placed an ad on WTB here and found a few potential cars that one of which was the Elise that you linked to but it was for sale by the guy that bought it and put more $$ into it. I ended up getting just what I was looking for thru the For Sale section here on LT. I felt much better dealing with a LT member rather than a used car salesman who knew nothing about the car.

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In seven months of ownership I've changed fluids, brakes, rotors added headers,ST exhaust, CAI and REV 300 tune to replace the older Koldfire tune and new tires on the LSS street rims and my 15/16 track combo. Three HPDE's have been a blast!

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Folks make an issue about the total lack of rear visibility with the Exige, and the fixed roof. I've owned and spent many dozens of hours in both, and these issues are easily mitigated if you otherwise like the Exige. $50 in parts, $1K more or less for a soft top on the used market, and an hour of your time (measure twice, cut once) and you can have the Exige with the same top-off characteristic of the Elise.
Just to be clear, the roof on an Exige is not fixed, it unbolts the same as the Elise.
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