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Enjoyed reading this thread.
I am also looking for a new ride.
Have had a 2008 VW R32 for 3 years now. Ready for something more raw.
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Hello! Been lurking for a little bit now, using the site as an amazing research resource...

Here's my question for the board:

I am purchasing a beautiful 2007 Elise (starlight black with biscuit) with only 2500 miles on it sometime within the next two weeks. The seller seems to be a great guy, sent me excellent, detailed pictures (and explanations) of subtle scratches and scuffs...we have agreed to take a test ride, both he and I driving...unsolicited he said he broke the car in to Lotus specs (specifically under 4500 rpm for the first 500 miles)...

What should I be looking for on inspection?

I am not mechanically inclined.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Enjoying it would be an understatement...my wife is worried that she might catch me humping it after one of my cruises...
HAR! I laughed so suddenly I actually spit on my screen! That was seriously funny!
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...one year ago today...

...still get that awe feeling when taking the cover off…

...still can't wait till 160 pops up on the temp.

...still get that sh*t-eating-grin pulling out of my drive, embarrassed as my neighbors watch while leaf blowing or weed-wacking, or worse, washing their mini vans…

...still have to step away from the car just to look at it after each drive...and say to myself "...holy sh*t..."


I guess I take an "average man" perspective when considering ownership of the Elise. The anxiety ridden, sleepless nights, possibly due to the many that questioned my judgment between commitment of purchase and bringing the car home, might be the cause for euphoria still. Or maybe it's just the machine itself.


In terms of driving, favorite things are on-ramps, big sweeping turns on major high ways, and punching into soft spots between pockets of traffic doing 70mph together (what’s with that pack mentality?). The ability to get away from everyone else is spectacular, and clearly there are few cars on the road with the rarity and looks of the Elise, thus I don’t blame people for wanting to take a closer look.


Other than the early incident with the guy in the Corvette, I have done my best to avoid "negative" attention. For some odd reason, guys in Infinity cars - regardless of model - want to show me how "fast" they can go…who gives a flying you know what at 80+mph unless you’re on a track?


The "hardest" part of ownership in year 1: watching 48" of snow pile on top...not cause I thought the snow would hurt it, cause I couldn't drive it! That’s ok, the early east coast blue sky spring morning top off cruises made up for that tenfold.


Before bringing it home, I had initial intentions of tracking the car on open days at Millville…but after a year, I say no way…certainly not a garage queen, and never beat on, this car is a “tweener’, and I hope a "keeper" for life (the idea is to pay it off, keep it, and then purchase and beat the crap out of a used Exige!). No matter what, this first year was way beyond expectations.



Favorite moments: PALS event at Kyle’s – especially the drive - still can’t get over it. The Bam Margera incident. Coming across fellow Elise randomly on the highway.


Least favorite moments: Old lady ran a red light and I just missed her – thanks to the telepathic steering and agility of the car . Sitting in bumper to bumper and watching the temp rise to 205+. A buddy of mine wanted to help raise the boot lid - too far...I didn't tell him he chipped the paint slightly...no big deal. Red lights where people want to get close…


6400+ miles in year one, at an average cruise of 50 miles, means I took the car out about 120+ times, sounds about right…put more miles on the Elise than my daily driver (now work from home).


First year mechanical / maintenance stuff: the guys at Rothrock have been unbelievable, and certainly contribute to my first year experience!

2 oil changes (one at 7,500 maintenance)
1 inspection
1 tire plug - ran over a screw or a nail
tail light led – warranty covered it
Diffuser rattle – lose screw


As I have written earlier, if you are on the fence, do your homework (this board, and the members are incredible!), find the “right” car for you, and then go for it…in my opinion, you will not regret it ***.








*** experience might not be "typical", I am the type of guy that kisses the Lotus badge on the steering wheel at the end of each ride, and although I have not experienced a four hour erection from driving, yet, if I did, I would certainly drive the car to the hospital and then consult a physician...unless I chose a hospital that was near a really nice stretch of road and then I would continue to drive in hopes that the woody would go down, but I doubt it with this car, especially if it was a nice day...

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I don't think he's a member...and he gave me the name and number of the service manager of the dealership where it was serviced.
What dealer ? if it's Auto Europe - Birmingham, Michigan's Lotus / Morgan / European Automobile Sales and Service Since 1965 - Home you KNOW it was well taken care of. Where is the car in Michigan ?? A local would be willing to check it out.

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What dealer ? if it's Auto Europe - Birmingham, Michigan's Lotus / Morgan / European Automobile Sales and Service Since 1965 - Home you KNOW it was well taken care of. Where is the car in Michigan ?? A local would be willing to check it out.
Yes, Auto Europe...those guys were awesome and nice enough to give me info on the car...but that was over a year ago...

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Yes, Auto Europe...those guys were awesome and nice enough to give me info on the car...but that was over a year ago...
I can find out about it, I know all the guys at autoeurope. PM me with the name/or serial number.

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I can find out about it, I know all the guys at autoeurope. PM me with the name/or serial number.
I called them - they said it was a "cream puff", and were right!

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I called them - they said it was a "cream puff", and were right!

Thanks!
Well, if that's what AutoEurope said, you can etch it in stone, they won't lead anyone wrong.

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...ohhh, I would drive 10,000 miles, and I would drive 10,000 more, just to be the man to drive those 20,000 miles, and then drive 20,000 more...
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Very nice, very nice!!

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Very nice, very nice!!
How sweet is that Spyker?! I was told this was a "light" day (maybe 20 cars, mostly Porsches and about 6 Ferraris) and with "heavy" days described as "auto porn"...can't wait to see that!

I might have to put the hard top on early this season to make it look a little more "exotic".

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...well, the tire plug was starting to fail...would have to put about 5lbs of pressure in the rear tire before each drive...and could hear a very subtle, yet odd vibration coming from that side of the car...

Two new rear tires, and an oil change...

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...first Exotic Car Show...cool experience.
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I'm in the position you were in: looking for the right car, waiting, sometimes getting worried that I'm going to miss my chance when I see sweet cars listed for sale on LT or ebay.

I'm glad you're enjoying your Elise so much. Your story gives me confidence that I'll eventually be able to find the car I want, and that I won't regret buying it.
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I'm in the position you were in: looking for the right car, waiting, sometimes getting worried that I'm going to miss my chance when I see sweet cars listed for sale on LT or ebay.

I'm glad you're enjoying your Elise so much. Your story gives me confidence that I'll eventually be able to find the car I want, and that I won't regret buying it.
Hey Scott!

Without a doubt, it's worth the wait. I wouldn't worry about missing out, as long as you are willing to travel a bit...and then once purchased, it's a whole different ball game...especially with used - you really don't know how "used" it is, or how it was used...thus, I am an advocate for private party purchases where you can actually correspond with the owner...that still is one of the biggest factors of my experience with the car.


Also, I would suggest buying one with the hard top. It's like you have two different cars...one a glorious, eye catching roadster, and the other a raw, exotic driving machine.

Best of luck!

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...I let her sit too long in the cold...interior and dash lights were bright, but wouldn't crank...

New battery...and considering a battery tender...we'll see. I'd rather just force myself to driver her more!

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...I let her sit too long in the cold...interior and dash lights were bright, but wouldn't crank...

New battery...and considering a battery tender...we'll see. I'd rather just force myself to driver her more!
Battery Tender or Battery MindR are def worth it if you let you baby sit for any length of time.
I've found batteries just aren't the same if you accidentally let them discharge a few times.

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