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Given her record, I just don't get it. Maybe marketing trumps talent?

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Hopefully she doesn't hit the wall as often as Danica does..

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Given her record, I just don't get it. Maybe marketing trumps talent?
Being a development driver is about a lot more than just fast (although fast is good) - it is about ability to give good feedback to the engineers, be reliable and consistent, and have good connections...

It doesn't hurt that its a PR positive either!!
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Wa-Wa-Wa!

Aedo does have some valid points..............

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Wa-Wa-Wa!

Aedo does have some valid points..............
I agree. Interesting development for sure.

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Use her in the new Evora 400 Marketing Videos, driving the car at its physical limits and then getting out... "If looks could kill" ad series.

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Use her in the new Evora 400 Marketing Videos, driving the car at its physical limits and then getting out... "If looks could kill" ad series.
OMG that is Brilliant!

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Use her in the new Evora 400 Marketing Videos, driving the car at its physical limits and then getting out... "If looks could kill" ad series.

With Gator taking over American marketing since Lotus won't, this should be in their next video!


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Like it or not, nowadays racing is about the spectacle more than the race. Especially with all the cost cutting and how restrictive the rules are in F1, anyone who watches to be amazed by technology or fast lap times is going to be disappointed anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, unless they change the rules to allow some more design freedom, they might as well put a hottie in every car and let them all drive a couple of seconds slower. At least it will be more fun to watch the podiums and the commercials they make.

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Like it or not, nowadays racing is about the spectacle more than the race. Especially with all the cost cutting and how restrictive the rules are in F1, anyone who watches to be amazed by technology or fast lap times is going to be disappointed anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, unless they change the rules to allow some more design freedom, they might as well put a hottie in every car and let them all drive a couple of seconds slower. At least it will be more fun to watch the podiums and the commercials they make.

Sadly for us this is a reality we all have to live with. Maybe next year every driver will be required to chew tobacco and wear cowboy hats?

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She looks like she has developed rather fine to me...
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Like it or not, nowadays racing is about the spectacle more than the race. Especially with all the cost cutting and how restrictive the rules are in F1, anyone who watches to be amazed by technology or fast lap times is going to be disappointed anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, unless they change the rules to allow some more design freedom, they might as well put a hottie in every car and let them all drive a couple of seconds slower. At least it will be more fun to watch the podiums and the commercials they make.
i totally agree... wet t-shirt champagne. that pretty much about the value of F1 these days.

current champ is kick starting a rap career... why not?

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Aww thread moved! This was about a lot more than racing! I thought the general lotus public had a right to know!

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Bringing sexy back to F1!? Yes, please.
As long as it brings the much needed money to the team, I don't think it's not a completely terrible idea at all.

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She been competitively driving since 8 years old. Just because she is hot doesn't mean she is not a talented driver.

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Being a development driver is about a lot more than just fast (although fast is good) - it is about ability to give good feedback to the engineers, be reliable and consistent, and have good connections...

It doesn't hurt that its a PR positive either!!
No. Both are vital. The valuable feedback comes with putting the car at the limit, not driving under it. I can drive my race car under the limit all day and it can feel fine. At the limit, it's a very different story.

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Like it or not, nowadays racing is about the spectacle more than the race. Especially with all the cost cutting and how restrictive the rules are in F1, anyone who watches to be amazed by technology or fast lap times is going to be disappointed anyway.

As far as I'm concerned, unless they change the rules to allow some more design freedom, they might as well put a hottie in every car and let them all drive a couple of seconds slower. At least it will be more fun to watch the podiums and the commercials they make.
Well, look at the Barcelona test times, more than a second quicker than pole last year.

I take your point about the Technical Regulations, particularly in regard to the power units, DRS, etc. The TWG have painted themselves into a corner. They want to cut costs, but the 'technology' aspect has instead increased them. Then they restrict testing and moan about reliability in the early days of 2014. I think we might improve the spectacle by moving the FIA from France to, say, the UK. It is fascinating that, in the year the FIA wanted to 'control costs,' several teams essentially folded financially. Effective rule making? I don't think so.

As for Carmen, I'm sure she's a nice person and all. Developing the new chassis requires pushing to the limit, and her record is not compelling in that regard, given the GP2/3 rules and her performance within them. Do Lotus want to gain marketing headlines? Or do they want to win? With the new engine, what excuses do they have in hand?

Personally, I'd hire Nigel Mansell or JPM to shake down the chassis. Remember Nigel's first test session with Williams? He dropped two seconds in the first session after simply softening the spring rates that Boutsen/Patrese were running. When Carmen starts making her presence felt on podiums, then sure, give her a shot. Until then, get the lap times down.

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