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requirement for roll-bar for convertibles?

I was looking at tech inspections, but saw that a roll-bar was required for all convertibles.

I have a stock elise, and would put the hardtop on for any HPDE, but how does this all work?

sorry if this was asked before, but I am trying to sign up for an event today, and need to find out if I can even participate.

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The Elise has an integral roll hoop. You can run top on or top off. Bring your screwdriver and try it both ways. This rule is a non issue for you.
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awesome! thanks!

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The rollover protection is marginally better with the hardtop on. It gives some extra support to the windshield and some protection against sinking in soft earth or intrusion of objects.

Combined with the aerodynamic superiority and the improved appearance, I'd say the hardtop is a winner for track.

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I think he was asking whether the people sponsoring the track day would accept the Elise as a convertible with a roll bar, and the answer is most likely yes. But I know some Porsche (PCA) folks sponsoring DE's are very picky and require a hardtop, on top of the bar. Which makes no sense of course but there it is. Other than that, I think everyone out there recognizes that the Elise has a bar and OK's it to drive-- mostly because everybody likes to see one out there .

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some Porsche (PCA) folks sponsoring DE's are very picky and require a hardtop, on top of the bar. Which makes no sense of course but there it is.
PCA requires that there be a top, it doesn't need to be the hard top, it can be just the convertible up.
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Yes that's the rule, but in practice I've seen a local PCA guy insist that the hardtop be used instead of the soft top. But it's a moot point to what the OP is asking.

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I was looking at tech inspections, but saw that a roll-bar was required for all convertibles.

I have a stock elise, and would put the hardtop on for any HPDE, but how does this all work?

sorry if this was asked before, but I am trying to sign up for an event today, and need to find out if I can even participate.
What organization are you running with?
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Some organizations require arm restraints if you do not have the hardtop on.

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The rollover protection is marginally better with the hardtop on. It gives some extra support to the windshield and some protection against sinking in soft earth or intrusion of objects.

Combined with the aerodynamic superiority and the improved appearance, I'd say the hardtop is a winner for track.
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Audi Club NA - NJ Chapter announces Audi Club -NJ and MRF Pocono Twilight Saturday, September 7, 2013 requirements at Pocono Raceway, Long Pond, PA 18334 (0014) - MotorsportReg.com

signed up for this event

Also,

my car is stock except for the oil line recall.

I know toelinks is something i need to do as well, but since i signed up yesterday, I was unable to purchase and install toelinks on such short notice.

any recommendations for me?

I will check the toe links for the pre inspection.

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Audi Club NA - NJ Chapter announces Audi Club -NJ and MRF Pocono Twilight Saturday, September 7, 2013 requirements at Pocono Raceway, Long Pond, PA 18334 (0014) - MotorsportReg.com

signed up for this event

Also,

my car is stock except for the oil line recall.

I know toelinks is something i need to do as well, but since i signed up yesterday, I was unable to purchase and install toelinks on such short notice.

any recommendations for me?

I will check the toe links for the pre inspection.
After reading the Audi national club rules, I'm surprised the NJ region will let you run at all. The national club says no convertibles of any kind without a cage and harness. The regional tech sheet does say you need to pass the broomstick test. Have you checked that?

After having been upside-down in a car at a similar event where a roll bar really did save my life, I will say, you will never regret having too much safety equipment.
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my car is stock except for the oil line recall.
Your car is stock. An oil-line recall does not change that.

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Your car is stock. An oil-line recall does not change that.
I understand that, but just wanted to put that out so nobody has to tell me to do it.

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Just an update on this

I've been running for a few years now, havent had a single issue in any event i've run with (BMW CCA or ACNA)

I've used hardtop every time.

Did end up upgrading the car a little bit with toelink upgrade since and looking into harnesses/seat options now

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