Ehey~ I finally pulled the trigger. I ended up going with the Reverie XC that was up for sale in the forum about a week ago.
I chose Reverie XC for its awesome lateral support EVERYWHERE and the fact that it's essentially a drop-in into the stock sliders. I just had to reinforce the slider mount with sys.6.pack
, which also serves as a mounting point for the sub belt.
I did have to purchase a slotted crossmember from Sector111. Sector doesn't list it on their website, but they have it available if you ask about it.
The install was.. interesting at first. Everything fit as it was meant to be except the cross member 'flip up' interfered a bit with the slider's adjustment lever, so that had to be grinded down a tad.
The thing I was concerned about was the shifter console clearance issue as some have issues with it. I can say that I didn't run into clearance issue even with the seat pulled all the way forward. At the widest part of the seat that was closest to the shifter console, I measured my XC at 16.5"(41.91cm). The stock seat was slightly under, around 16.25"(41.275cm). With the seat pulled all the way forward, the available space was tad under 17"(43.18cm), so Tillet B5 (42cm) and 41cm version B6/B6F/B7 will clear, but 44cm versions of B6/B6F/B7 could run into issues. If the seat doesn't have to be pulled far forward, it won't be a problem. I thought this info could be valuable for potential seat seekers.
I retained the stock 3pt, but purely for cosmetic reasons since I like to keep things looking stock. It'll be impossible to use it especially because of the seat's shoulder 'wings' among other things. Plus, the way the Reverie XC is more reclined than stock made submarining with the 3pt a possibility. A member here that I exchanged few ideas with assured me that I'll die even in a minor crash if I dared to use the stock 3pts with the B6F due to submarining, and I'm sure it'll apply to the XC since the overall design has similarities.
I must say this, though. This seat is TIGHT. Another member here gave me a long term update on his purchase of the B6F where he stated that it makes "getting in and out a hassle" and said "you'll regret it for the first two weeks, after that you'll just be resigned to your fate heh." I share that sentiment despite having sat in it for total of less than 2 hours so far. Getting in and out is indeed a hassle, the high thigh/hip bolsters makes it fairly tough to rotate the body around to get in and out of the car. It'll be impossible to get my wallet out when strapped in, and taking things out of my front pockets problematic. I don't think it'll work with anyone larger than 33inch waist, taller than 5'11" and/or weigh over 180lbs.
The reclined seat position came as a bit of a surprise. I like to seat close to the steering wheel for maximum leverage and control, and this seating position meant I have to extend my arm out a farther. It also meant slightly less forward visibility but more peripheral visibility. I'm sure I'll get used to it, eventually. I might want to purchase a steering wheel spacer
, although I fear it'll make in/egress that much more difficult. The correct way would be to install a quick release steering wheel, but that again pushes the car into the non-stock category that I'm not particularly fond of at the moment.
Interestingly, though, the reclined seat position gave me a better feel for the car and made heel-and-toe slightly easier, although I didn't really have difficulty heel/toeing in the first place with wider pedal covers. I also felt hyper-aware of the car's movement due to how tightly I was being held in the car even when the harness wasn't fully tightened. Every bit of twitch I made with the steering/gas/throttle/clutch I felt it. It's amazing, although it can potentially get tiring if I had to drive it on poorly maintained roads for extended periods of time. Since I made it clear in the beginning that I use the car 80% track, 20% street, this will be a non-issue for me.
Seat pads are just ordered from Reverie to prevent the seat from getting scratched in heavily used areas and bring back some level of comfort and improve the fit.
Overall, it's going to be slightly more pain in the ass, but I think the pros of having a tight fitting high-quality seat outweighs the con.
Additional thoughts on the subject...
I've never tried Tillett B6/B6F/B7, but I can say that the B5 is VERY comfortable in comparison.
I think in order of tightness in my experience is:
Bride Zodia < Reverie XC < Tillett B5 < Sport S260 HANS < Stock.
If I were to GUESS what other seats would be like, I IMAGINE it's something like:
Bride Zodia < Reverie XC = Tillett B6/B6F/B7
= Corbeau LE-X
< Reverie Mulsanne C
= Tillett B5 < Sport S260 HANS < Corbeau LE-Pro
I'm sure I'm missing a few, and someone who has tried can maybe chime in and complete this comparison.
This thread could've proved useful if it was written in 2008, but hey, I thought some info was better than no info. Hopefully this thread will prove useful for someone looking for new seats. I'll update as I find anything interesting about the subject. I might go with even more hardcore setup or less, but I'll have to see what makes sense.
for letting me try your seat, everyone in this thread and
for your input, and
for the 'parts'.
I'd say my 6 month quest to find the right seat came to the end... more or less for the time being.