For those with onboard fire extinguishers: Have you ever used it to suppress a fire? - LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community
View Poll Results: Has anyone used their fire extinguisher to suppress an engine fire?
yes, successfully...but the damage was beyond repair according to the insurance company 1 1.79%
no, haven't had to....yet! 51 91.07%
yes, unsuccessfully...the entire car burnt to a crisp 0 0%
yes, successfully....the car had minor damage and was repaired 4 7.14%
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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 07-02-2009, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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For those with onboard fire extinguishers: Have you ever used it to suppress a fire?

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better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

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That's what the insurance people say...
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...this is strictly anecdotal, but in the only incident i've read of an elise with a fully-plumbed integral engine bay extinguisher being used to combat a starting fire, it proved ineffectual and the car burned completely down to the tarmac anyway...

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If my car catches on fire enough to require an extinguisher, I would rather see it burn down and use in insurance to replace it vs. repair it.
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Not in the lotus but in an old VW bus. It was a very good feeling when presented with a 2 foot ball of fire to remember that I had a fire extinguisher on board. I was able to put out the fire right away and only had very minor damage.

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I had a handheld in a SCCA showroom stock VW GTI that was my DD. I was going around the DC beltway and I saw a mini pick up truck with a bed fire. The guy was pulling over and I stopped, pulled the extinguisher off the cage mount, and put out the fire. I'm a hero, except now I was out the $30 and had to get a refill. No good deed goes unpunished.
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If my car catches on fire enough to require an extinguisher, I would rather see it burn down and use in insurance to replace it vs. repair it.
Oh hell yes.
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The only reason to have one is to stop the fire from getting to you if you can't get out, otherwise BURN BABY BUUURRRN!!!
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Sorry, I like my particular car too much to allow it to just burn before my eyes. I'd rather do anything in my power to save her. I've always carried an extinguisher in my sports cars...heck my '78 Vette came with one from the factory!

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...this is strictly anecdotal, but in the only incident i've read of an elise with a fully-plumbed integral engine bay extinguisher being used to combat a starting fire, it proved ineffectual and the car burned completely down to the tarmac anyway...
This is only to give you more time to get out of the car. If it happens to save the car as well -- bonus. If the system gives you ample time to evacuate and the car still dies a fiery death, the system still did its job nicely.
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I had a handheld in a SCCA showroom stock VW GTI that was my DD. I was going around the DC beltway and I saw a mini pick up truck with a bed fire. The guy was pulling over and I stopped, pulled the extinguisher off the cage mount, and put out the fire. I'm a hero, except now I was out the $30 and had to get a refill. No good deed goes unpunished.
I had a similar incident as well. Pickup truck with flaming cardboard going down the highway oblivious to what was happening. I flagged them over and used my extinguisher and I don't even remember if I got a thanks or not.

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My fire extinguisher is for me! Insurance can buy me a new car, but it won't restore a burnt body.

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re: Fire extinguisher use

frankly, I cannot figure out what a little floor-mounted hand-held bottle is good for. If you see another car on fire, you could attempt to take it out and try to deal with the fire. If a Lotus with a little floor-mounted hand-held bottle catches fire, you would have to detach the unit, turn it upside down (maybe) aim and try to put out the fire, while you are seating in a burning car. form what I recall an average fire suit gives you about 9 to 15 seconds... Not really a situation I want to be in. Besides a little bottle may not be enough.

I would plumb a 10lb bottle with 2 nozzles in the engine bay, one in front and one to two nozzles in the driver's compartment. Then you hit the (engine stop and) the fire button and get out of the car.

I did use my mounted Firebottle in my previous race car. It was a small oil fire in the engine compartment. The fire was out in 3 seconds flat. You really do not want to see a fire in the engine bay when you are running 6 x 160 lb/hr fuel injectors with a 2025 Weldon pump to back them up.

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My fire extinguisher is for me! Insurance can buy me a new car, but it won't restore a burnt body.
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frankly, I cannot figure out what a little floor-mounted hand-held bottle is good for. If you see another car on fire, you could attempt to take it out and try to deal with the fire.
You are close to touching on what that little floor mounted hand held bottle is good for. There are actually 2 reasons.

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If you see another car on fire, you could attempt to take it out and try to...
keep flames away from the occupants of that car while they are either getting out or being extracted.

Those things, and quite frankly the plumbed systems as well, are really just to give the occupants a bit more time to get out of a burning vehicle without sustaining burn injury or with minimizing burn injury.
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I have been thinking about this a while myself, and I have come to the same conclusion as Anton on a hand-held extinguisher. I don't see much use for it. If my car is on fire, I think I would be better off getting out ASAP rather than wasting seconds getting to the extinguisher. A fire suppression system, on the other hand, seems like a much better idea as it could provide me with more time to get out of harms way and would have more volume than the hand held extinguishers.

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Mounted automatic fire suppression system is for your car. Hand mounted bottles are for someone elses. If my car is on fire I am getting out as soon as possible and not wasting time unhooking a bottle.

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If my car is on fire, I think I would be better off getting out ASAP rather than wasting seconds getting to the extinguisher. A fire suppression system, on the other hand, seems like a much better idea as it could provide me with more time to get out of harms way and would have more volume than the hand held extinguishers.
Ding Ding Ding! And notice no where in that post does Amber mention saving the vehicle from burning to the ground.

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Mounted automatic fire suppression system is for use in your car to allow you more time to exit or be extracted with as minimal burn injury as possible.
I've changed that to reflect my personal opinion a little more .
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