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Gear slop and gear noise...

I'm a newbie to my 2005 Elise. I only have a dozen or so hours in the seat so what I am going to describe may be normal I don't know. I've searched and searched here for gear slop, transmission noies, etc., but haven't found what I am about to describe.

I bought my 2005 Elise used with 10K miles on it. When I'm driving my twisty mountain road near home, I'm in 2nd gear a lot. I hear a ton of gear slop going on in 2nd. When I accelerate or decelerate of course the noise goes away because of the slack being taken up either applying power or letting off. However when I am unloading the transmission and just cruising along I definitely hear gear noise. It does this in first and second gear, and perhaps slightly in 3rd gear.

Is this normal? If it is normal it sure sounds like there is a lot of play in the gears. I know driving in a metal tub is way more subject to noises, and I can certainly live with this if it is considered normal, but I don't know if it is or not.

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The only time I hear gear noise is when I am a passenger. I think the sound has been there since day one. I don't hear the gear sound while driving, I have the Fujita intake and Quicksilver ext, so I make a lot of music. I got my Elise with 3K on the clock. Have fun!

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My gear noise seemed to get louder in the last 500 miles, and I have less than 5K on the clock. Not sure what to make of it.

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i get something you might describe as a ringing or chattering, especially when i'm decelerating by letting the engine do the work, just before I need to hit the clutch and downshift. I really don't think this is gear noise. that gearbox is way to tight to be chattering like that. i think its something else resonating at that frequency caused by the engine and low RPM. you and I, however, could be describing completely different things
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i get something you might describe as a ringing or chattering, especially when i'm decelerating by letting the engine do the work, just before I need to hit the clutch and downshift. I really don't think this is gear noise. that gearbox is way to tight to be chattering like that. i think its something else resonating at that frequency caused by the engine and low RPM. you and I, however, could be describing completely different things
Sounds like the noise I was getting before I removed the black cubbyhole in the console. I've since reinstalled it with some strategically placed felt. If you haven't tried it already, there's only one screw holding it in . . .

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Sounds like the noise I was getting before I removed the black cubbyhole in the console. I've since reinstalled it with some strategically placed felt. If you haven't tried it already, there's only one screw holding it in . . .
do you have any pictures of what you're referring to?
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16k miles. I get gear noise in every gear. its loud.
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do you have any pictures of what you're referring to?
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Here's a pic of where I added felt. I've since changed it to wrap around the lip. I'll try to post better pics tomorrow.

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27307

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For now, here's a pic of the part I'm referring to. It's the black insert above the power outlet.

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/show...54&postcount=3

(not the power outlet cover.)

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Mine is definitely tranny/gear whine, not a rattle/buzz.

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Here are some other thoughts on Lotus Elise noises:


http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/show...ighlight=noise
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My 05 w/ 2500 mi has gear noise in 1st and 2nd but only when crawling (when the trany is slack). No track miles until this weekend coming. Given the trany on a british car may last let's say 70M with street use and maybe 35M with some semi frequent track use, I would think a fairly noisy trany at 15M is normal (but pathetic nonetheless). Only my uneducated opinion.

Randy, you seem to drive a lot. How's your trans?

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It's normal, they all do that. You notice it especially if the top is on. If no torque is applies, the gearbox whines. You get used to it.
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coming. Given the trany on a british car may last let's say 70M with street use and maybe 35M with some semi frequent track use, I would think a fairly noisy trany at 15M is normal (but pathetic nonetheless). Only my uneducated opinion.
its a toyota engine/tranny, its not british, its japanese. big difference

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Thanks for the reminder. So why does it whine like a British tranny? Being that a Japanese tranny would only whine if it was made to, I suspect it has a lot to do with the gear teeth (tooth?) design. I remember my Muncie M22 whined like a truck, but they didn't nick name it the "rock crusher" for nothing. You couldn't break that tranny.

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Perhaps because it's a cable shifter? I get some noise that sounds like tranny noise but changes if I wiggle the shifter.

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At 28,800 miles, mine doesn't seem to have very much gear noise. Go drive it.

Of course, I also have a Fujita intake. They might cover up a lot.

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I have this same problem. I hear it in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th mostly. A little in 5th but not as loud. Ever find a solution?

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I have this same problem. I hear it in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th mostly. A little in 5th but not as loud. Ever find a solution?

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Hmmm. Thanks for the response but that's too bad. So it's commonly agreed the cause is a sloppy transmission with no solution?

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