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HOW MANY BLOWN ALTERNATORS???

I blew the alternator on saturday afternoon, smoke coming from the general area, hot electrical smell and the battery light came on. Shut her down and took it to Forcedfed this AM(very short drive) batt light still on. Not sure if it temporarily froze up(no screeching noises) but it is free spinning now.. The car has about 13,000 miles and is basically set up the same as a 240R so I don't think there are unreasonable belt loads or excessive heat. I may add another NACA duct under the car and run a cooling air hose to the alt area for good measure though.
Anyone have experience with this problem in S/C or non S/C cars??
Toyota part so I am hoping that the cost is fairly low..?????
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Perry, I cant help you with your alternator problem.. But when you get her fixed up, come to Sac race way for Wed fun drags. Ill even pay your entrance

Another incentive is that we have a scale there. You can weigh your car. Its very accurate. +/- 5lbs.

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yes, fried them during SC development, they're susceptible to the extra heat.

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yes, fried them during SC development, they're susceptible to the extra heat.
I WILL do the NACA duct vent hose. Should help keep tems down and maybe keep an extra alt on the shelf. Any idea of the cost? I will know later today I guess...
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Perry, I cant help you with your alternator problem.. But when you get her fixed up, come to Sac race way for Wed fun drags. Ill even pay your entrance

Another incentive is that we have a scale there. You can weigh your car. Its very accurate. +/- 5lbs.
What time and where exactly...Once I get the Sequential Shifter(on it's way) installed I may take you up on that.
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i don't recall them being shockingly expensive, its a 70W denso if memory serves, i'll see if i can fnd out which exactly.

its also why the alt is where it is on the katana, since it failed elsewhere.

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Around $280 from Toyota.
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What time and where exactly...Once I get the Sequential Shifter(on it's way) installed I may take you up on that.
Its usually every wed 5-10pm

http://sacramentoraceway.com/

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Around $280 from Toyota.
Yep, $280

You can search for dealerships that sell parts online. Usually at 20% discount. For example: magauto.com

But there are better ones.(with cheaper shipping)

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maybe get one of these !

eliseparts sells em for £169 so seems like ML's quote isn't far off. unfortunately positioned with no p/n.
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lotusgarage.com wants $506

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I think this is it, but i'm really not sure, it matches the part number of the Celica GT-S 2ZZ-GE alternator. which is 210-0393 and i believe the alternator is the same.

ALTERNATOR MATRIX COROLLA VIBE CELICA LESTER 13879

Its a 6S pulley and 80 AMP.



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Yes indeed. Mine fried after SC changeover but I suspect faulty bracket was a partial contributor. Lotus BMC wanted $1,400 (!!!) for a new one. I did get a Toyota replacement but wiring was different. CharlieX and others helped with diagrams but it was a drawn out process. Check out Charliex's suggestion but get wiring diagram. Check with me. Down the street.

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Oh, and check out this thread:
https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f129...hematic-55155/
Is your harness connector plug to the wiring harness OK?

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$1,400 for an alternator ? lordy..

i'm sure you've already got this perry, but in case anyone searches
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some possible alternatives i pulled and updated urls from other posts.

Autozone might use session cookies, so search by toyota celica, 2002, electrical, alternator, R type.

AutoZone.com | Shopping | Parts | |

AutoZone.com | Shopping | Parts | Product Detail - Alternator

AutoZone.com | Shopping | Parts | Product Detail - Alternator



again might have same session id problem, so same as before, toyota, celica, 2002.

https://www.trademotion.com/partloca...02&catalogid=1

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Looks like $280 was the #..
A heat shield and air ducted in would be nice.
Carlie, who sells the heat shield?
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eliseparts.com in the UK, not sure about across the pond though, i bet ff/casey could knock one up quicker than you could ship it.

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This is my first post here on LT. Hope I can help you guys out.

I own a 2000 MR-2 Spyder with a 2zz-ge. Which is why I joined. We have the same motor and maybe we can both help each other out.


This is Carson Toyota. This is where I usually order my stock parts.
Look up the alternator for a Celica GT-S. Cost is about $210 plus shipping.
Carson Toyota/Scion/Lexus Ultimate OEM Parts



Also could it be that Lotus put the alternator from the 1zz on their 2zz's?
I know it is a problem with the MR-2 when people do a 2zz swap and leave their 1zz alternator on it. It won't last long and goes out fairly quickly with the high revs.
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This is my first post here on LT. Hope I can help you guys out.

I own a 2000 MR-2 Spyder with a 2zz-ge. Which is why I joined. We have the same motor and maybe we can both help each other out.


This is Carson Toyota. This is where I usually order my stock parts.
Look up the alternator for a Celica GT-S. Cost is about $210 plus shipping.
Carson Toyota/Scion/Lexus Ultimate OEM Parts



Also could it be that Lotus put the alternator from the 1zz on their 2zz's?
I know it is a problem with the MR-2 when people do a 2zz swap and leave their 1zz alternator on it. It won't last long and goes out fairly quickly with the high revs.

Thanks for the info..
I know that ForcedFed makes a bit of markup on their parts and I'm OK with it. I called John on saturday, he picked up his cell and told me to bring it in first thing on monday AM. He only charged me $325 installed and Casey worked on the car for about three hours or so. I want to support my local tuner shop so they will be there when I need them in the future. Later this week Casey is installing Neil's Sequential shifter in the car. It should be a lot of fun.

Hey Casey, Tell us about your drive in the car today..... He drove it about 2 miles back to me this afternoon and had quite a bit to say about the drive and a look he got from a local cop
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