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Cool Installed "Manly Mounts" a while back!

Hello Fellow LT-ers!

So, this is my next installment of "Mods I am doing to my car and what I
think of them and stuff."

The topic this week is my "Manly Mount" upgrade! Funny enough, I actually
installed these as my first mod (aside from the K&N filter I put in the first day
I got my car, which I subsequently took out and replaced with a cup car
airbox + K&N filter!), but I didn't get a chance to write a review on them or
talk about the install.

I also had taken pictures during the install (a la the "Saikou Michi Catch Can"
thread!) but for some reason I can't find them on my camera. Womp Womp


So, on to the fun stuff.

I got the Manly Mounts because they were, what I saw, as a very easy mod
to do that could have a very positive impact on my car. I was a bit sad
about how sloppy shifting was and then I saw this video:


I was not too happy about my engine flailing around like an epileptic every
time I let off the throttle or pressed the clutch in.

I decided to get the Manly mounts because they were a good deal cheaper
than the Innovative Mounts, and because I heard that the Innovative
mounts REALLY increased vibrations and stiffened things up, while the Manly
mounts stiffened things up "just enough" to fix the problem, so there wasnt a
big increase in vibrations.

A quick note to people-- I was under the impression that "Manly Mount
Inserts" were new engine mounts... but they are, quite literally, urethane
INSERTS that go in to your stock front and rear mounts to fill the voids...
thus tightening things up.

Install was pretty easy and straight forward.

1) Lift rear of car or drive up "Rhino Ramps" (I chose to drive up ramps and it
was more than enough space).

2) Remove undertray and diffuser.

For the front mount--

1) Remove the bolt going through the mount and the two bolts holding the
"frame" of the mount to the car.

2) Insert the inserts

3) Reattach mounts.

For the rear mount--

1) Remove the bolt going through the mount and the four bolts holding the
mount to the car.

2) Insert the inserts (again... haha).

3) Reattach mounts.


Then, you just need to reinstall the diffuser and undertray and either lower
the car or drive off the ramps. Boom, you're done!

My Experience!

So, for the first hundred miles or so, the increase in vibrations at around
1000 RPM was CRAZY. I am talking insanity. But after about
one hundred miles everything "settled" and whatnot.

Now, in terms of vibration, it is barely noticeable. I don't think it is anything
more, really, than stock.

In terms of shifting and throttle response, though... HOLY cow. Even in the
first 100 miles... I immediately noticed that shifting was WAY
smoother. Much less of a "woah... I can feel the gears all clicking together
and stuff" feeling and more of a "woah... buttery" feeling.

I definitely think it was a very good investment. The tradeoff is nothing at
all. A BARELY noticeable increase in vibration (after the 100 or so miles....
) and a CRAZY noticeable increase in shift feel and throttle
response immediately.

Not to mention that since the engine isn't flailing around or anything, I wont
risk breaking my exhaust or whatever.

Woooo!



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Great review. I'll be looking into this solution as well - I tend to go into second cam a lot more than usual
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Thanks for giving us a review of the mounts, I am considering the upgrade when I have some spare moolah laying around next

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manly mounts are only a set of 2? there are 4 engine mounts... do the side ones just stay stock?

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It is 4 inserts, two for the front mount (each side) and two for the rear. Sides are stock.



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ok, im sold... added to my winter projects

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i wonder if the inserts would be compatible with the side mounts, and if so, if it would be worth replacing them as well?

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They are not. Each set is "formed" for the particular mount and wont work in the others, as the "recessed" area in each stock mount is different.

Regardless, I think doing the other two mounts is overkill for most purposes. I am very happy with these! A BIG improvement, but 100% streetable.



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I also have the Manly Mounts and I can't say enough good things about them. Much better feel all around.

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Where did you purchase those from? I was considering some bushing upgrades and it looks like those fit the bill and will be more streetable.

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i wonder if the inserts would be compatible with the side mounts, and if so, if it would be worth replacing them as well?
Most of the movement is front to back, so adding inserts for the sides would have minimal impact.

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ok... sold... agin

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Everyone should do at least the Manly mounts. I went with Innovative mounts as it is a more robust solution, but either way, you are going to enjoy the car more.
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I also have the manly engine mounts. With them, I think DBW is even more precise, because sublte changes in throttle are directly applied to forward motion of car, not rotating the engine on soggy stock engine mounts.
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Everyone should do at least the Manly mounts. I went with Innovative mounts as it is a more robust solution, but either way, you are going to enjoy the car more.
What are the vibrations like? Will you be at dinner today?



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I installed one and now my car feels like Harley Davidson..
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i went with the manly mounts because i didnt think the full innovative kit was necesary for a street car.
i love the manly mounts. tightened everything up, while only adding a little bit of vibration which is totally acceptable as a daily driver. in fact i wouldnt care if there was a bit more. the only thing i have an issue with, which may be due to my exhaust is an odd resonance at certain low rpms.. say idling at a red light. otherwise its the best mod to date.
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Everyone should do at least the Manly mounts. I went with Innovative mounts as it is a more robust solution, but either way, you are going to enjoy the car more.
+1 .....

Manly mounts are much better than stock -- Innovative mounts are in another league. If you're concerned about too much vibration (street use primarily), just use the front/rear mounts from Innovative set.

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I installed all 4 Innovative mounts (red) and the improvement in response is well worth any increase in vibration.

Yes, the vibration does increase, mostly noticeable at idle, but once up to speed, hardly an issue for me.

I AutoX my car, so any benefit from a more stable powerplant is a bonus.

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i wonder if the inserts would be compatible with the side mounts, and if so, if it would be worth replacing them as well?
IMO, the side mounts are overkill for a mostly street driven car. Even the upgraded $400+ Lotus Sport motor mounts option that are for track use sold at the dealer only beef up the lower front and lower rear mounts.

The Innovative mounts are a very solid option too. I highly recommend them to those that track their cars often. I would go with these before choosing the Lotus Sport mounts for a track car.

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Where did you purchase those from? I was considering some bushing upgrades and it looks like those fit the bill and will be more streetable.
U can buy them here.
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