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post #101 of 355 (permalink) Old 04-02-2014, 05:42 PM
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This is painful!!!

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post #102 of 355 (permalink) Old 04-02-2014, 06:59 PM
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Painful, yes but almost done. But we've been saying that for a good month now...
I guess we should feel lucky that the KPro is a MAP system, at least the recent tune isn't a complete waste.

I've never seen a system leak this bad, jesus still idles with the TB completely blocked off... WTF

Butters, you need to post the pictures that we took of the blower intermediate plate.
We've gotta keep the amusement factor going.

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Sorry to hear you're still having issues. Best of luck.

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Here is what was found.
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Thinking of K-swapping? Here's an idea of the cost involved.

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This is why I do the work myself, no one will take care of your stuff more then you. if you can I would sue them.

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thats horrible new man, and that some horrible work i see too. Keep your head high, when that thing in finally finished it will put a smile on your face and bring back some life to you. Hard work and dedication
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re: Honda conversions

I have built a few race cars, so the engine 'conversion' task is not new to me.

The biggest lesson is to find people that worked with your engine and technology before. I use Corvette spline and bearing hubs on my Honda axles, because, I know these parts.

1. I bought an assembled motor from a reputable shop. I bought it from a customer that never used it. However, I talked to the shop, got the build sheet and got references.

2. I found reputable sources of aftermarket parts. This came from Honda forums k20a.org.

3. I found a local tuner and watched him tune a similar set-up, before I let him touch mine.

I cannot over-emphasize (1). I had to replace cams and thought that I should be able to handle the timing. Bent 2 valves!

Whenever, you undertake such complex projects some problems are to be expected.

I had a bad MAP sensor. It was brand new. The car would almost start i.e. catch, then moment ECU went into its standard mode, it would say MAP=0 so fuel =0 and stop. Took me a day to figure it out. I cannot build a motor, but I am good at diagnostics.

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This is why I do the work myself, no one will take care of your stuff more then you. if you can I would sue them.
If there is a lesson I'm taking away from all this is that you should indeed do as much of the work yourself if you can.

If I had a bunch of money laying around that I could burn on lawyer fees I'd think about suing those bastards. But as it stands, I don't. However, good news is some other, richer, guy is doing that already. I don't suspect they'll be in business that much longer...

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Butters,

Did you replace the oil cooler after you found that bead blasting material had ruined the previous engine?

Any time you get metal or other debris in the oil system, you should really replace the oil coolers!

BTW, same thing happened to a few Esprit V8's recently after the engine re-builder re-painted the cam covers!

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I dumped the oil out of the oil cooler and filtered it --- it was clean, no sand. The engine didn't get hot enough for the oil stat to open up in the first place...

Thinking of K-swapping? Here's an idea of the cost involved.

2006 LOTUS EXIGE (ASPEN WHITE) Honda K24A2 + MPx90 supercharger. 322whp/271lb-ft @13psi. Build thread here.
1994 AUTOZAM AZ-1 MAZDASPEED Japanese Super Kei!
2014 FIAT 500e Hydroelectric powered EV daily driver.
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Wow. I guess I really should be grateful for how my swap turned out, despite my own bumps.

Good luck and don't get discouraged!

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I'll throw down some money if you want to hire a lawyer. Imagine if 50 people threw down $100 each. Looks to be a pretty open and shut case.
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Hahaha! That would be awesome. **sigh**

Thinking of K-swapping? Here's an idea of the cost involved.

2006 LOTUS EXIGE (ASPEN WHITE) Honda K24A2 + MPx90 supercharger. 322whp/271lb-ft @13psi. Build thread here.
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2014 FIAT 500e Hydroelectric powered EV daily driver.
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I'll throw down some money if you want to hire a lawyer. Imagine if 50 people threw down $100 each. Looks to be a pretty open and shut case.
You would have to get in line for this place, there's already one open and shut case going on, in the end you could win, but your prize would be en empty paper bag...

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Oh wow crazy thread. To spend what, $40K+ total and have all these problems.

That's why I never take my cars to any shops and do all work myself. 99% of shops will half ass everything and cut corners like you wouldn't believe. Or basically not even know what they are doing.

Really the only way to get high end sports cars. Pay big $$ for one from the factory, or build/modify one yourself which costs <time>.

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How do you guys have your throttle cable arranged? Ive got alot of play in mine but not sure if its hooked up properly

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How do you guys have your throttle cable arranged? Ive got alot of play in mine but not sure if its hooked up properly
I made a custom bracket for the TB side and added another return spring at the pedal (pic is in this thread someplace)
The cable routes from the pedal through the tunnel (following the e brake cable) into the engine bay, then up to the custom bracket.

If there's slop, you have adjusters on both ends to deal with.
Not really sure how one could hook it up improperly...

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Is yours an 05? Im using the factory throttle cable and this bracket. I believe theres only 1 way to mount it on the tb, but it snags when it opens and closes

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It's an 06. The throttle cable I used is a piece that Exiged had custom made. Its stronger than the Innovative Mounts cable.

Thinking of K-swapping? Here's an idea of the cost involved.

2006 LOTUS EXIGE (ASPEN WHITE) Honda K24A2 + MPx90 supercharger. 322whp/271lb-ft @13psi. Build thread here.
1994 AUTOZAM AZ-1 MAZDASPEED Japanese Super Kei!
2014 FIAT 500e Hydroelectric powered EV daily driver.
2007 SUZUKI SV650 Track bike.
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Is yours an 05? Im using the factory throttle cable and this bracket. I believe theres only 1 way to mount it on the tb, but it snags when it opens and closes
It's hanging on the TB side or the pedal side (or possibly in the middle), disconnect one end at a time to test. with both ends disconnected you should be able to easy move the cable back and forth within the sheath.
If the cable's fine then look for binding at the pedal and tb.

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