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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-30-2017, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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Shifting ?

So I've always loved the Elise / Exige and am finally in a position to possibly add one to my garage.

My question is I drove one yesterday that was very well cared for and seems to be an excellent example. I have seen several posts regarding the shifter being sloppy. So what I experienced was 1-2, 3-4 were fine. the 2-3 shift was very vague and definitely took some finesse. Is that the basic issue others have?

If so, I've seen the Alitech shifter which seems awesome, but a bit pricey. are there any other more reasonably priced options that will improve the shifting? It was just such a shame that the shifter on such an awesome car is the worst I think i've ever shifted.

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@blown9746 - Alitech and InoKinetic both make replacement shifters. In addition to those, the following items may improve a specific Elise or Exige's shifting performance:

- different transmission lube
- stiffer transmission mounts
- replacement cables
- replacement external shift levers on transmission case
- replacement shift ball

There are lots of posts on LotusTalk on this subject, many of them going back a decade or more. I have made every mod I know about to my shifter on my 2011 Elise SC and it now shifts reliably . . . the only OEM part left in the shifter system is the transmission.

So in answer to your question, driver experiences are all over the map, from awesome OEM shifter to vague piece of garbage that is constantly missing shifts. The shifter feel can be improved, but it may cost from hundreds to several thousand dollars to get there.

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See #5. My car shifts wonderfully.


Note to new Elise & Exige Owners:


1. These cars have large (i.e. dangerous) blind spots. Multivex mirrors are NLA, but RLS (Really Light Stuff) offers very good tape-on replacements.


2. The horns are way too weak (quiet). There’s an inverse relationship: smaller the car, louder the horn needs to be.

Get something such as a Stebel Nautilus.

Stock: “Excuse me”


Stebel: “HONK! LOOK OUT!”

Remove the stock horn; replace with louder.

(I drive with my finger on the horn button in any traffic. Iffy situations, my headlights are on.

Stay to the left of traffic, i.e. avoid passing on the right if you can.

Stop way behind trucks, SUVs, etc. Some have blindspots >50’. )


3. The early cars came with misaimed and dim headlights. If you drive at night, convert to HIDs. While better than stock halogen bulbs are available, HIDs throw more light. Stay around 5000k.


4. Ensure your car has had the work required by the recall for oil line fittings done. You could lose an engine and/or spin in your own oil.

5. The best transmission lube I’ve found is Redline MT-90 plus a little Power Punch Extreme Gear Oil Additive. (Note that it takes two changes to get rid of the previous lube.)

a) Early cars have wobbly shift towers. Look up Stan’s Mod (bolt and spacer; http://www.billswebspace.com/ShifterReinforcement.pdf) and

Re-Enforcer long thru bolts that terminate under car and tie down the tower:
https://www.inokinetic.com/lotus/re-...y=Transmission

These (lube, mods) make a huge change in shifting.


6. As per some engine builders on these sites, wait AT LEAST 20 minutes after coolant has reached full operating temp before engaging cam switchover.


7. Rear toe-links can loosen and break with disastrous results. You can check tq periodically, or use Nordlock washers. Best is conversion to better engineered brace, such as BOE’s for one example.


8. While under the car with panel off, look around for hoses and wires chafing their way to failure. That’s how this was found:
https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f311...-u-tube-47232/

9. The stock radiators are prone to leaking where the end caps meet the metal part. Keep an eye on this. Most of us use single-pass all-aluminum radiators.

10. When your wheel well liner comes loose, skip the lame plastic rivet and use Well-Nuts instead.

11. Visit the Uber Thread

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/e...ow-here-25131/

10. Most parts on the car are made by Toyota and others, so buying things like a/c compressors, engine parts, etc. are wildly expense when purchased thru Lotus.

Toyota dealers, auto parts stores are way less expensive.


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https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f101...brakes-241138/


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My 07 Exige shifts fine except for 5-6. I have solved this by always making that shift thumb down[suggested in a posting here]. My shifter is factory except for the extra bolt and washer mod made by the PO.

Other than feeling like every other cable shifter it is as normal as any car I have driven

I feel like the 5-6 problem could be solved by a weaker crossgate spring, but have not been brave enough to play with that yet.
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My shifter is factory except for the extra bolt and washer mod made by the PO.
Quite right - I should have said improvements start at around $1.

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Forgot to add that when the "console" cover was removed, one of the swivel joints (?) was at a bad angle. Noting where it was, I moved it to a better position.

I also lubed the moving parts.

Good result.

05 elise (BOE Rev300 supercharged, SSRs, shift tower mods, Multivex; HID hi/low beams); 05 Corolla XRS. Past '72 Elan Sprint (I restored), Lotus 7 w/X-flow, TT Supra, Bugeye Sprite, BMW 2002 & 2002tii, '65 GTO.

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Quite right - I should have said improvements start at around $1.

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Even cheaper, I think the most noticeable change was a little spray grease on the transmission end linkage
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All good information. I just purchased an 08 that has the Letsla kit in it. I'm not used to cable shifted cars, but the shifts are vague and imprecise. I'm going to try to narrow it down or improve a little at a time, but this thread saved from starting my own, thanks.
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